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Ukraine's Zelenskyy says he wants to end war with Russia through diplomacy next year

www.cbsnews.com Ukraine's Zelenskyy says he wants to end war with Russia through diplomacy next year

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he is certain that the war will end "sooner" than it otherwise would have once Donald Trump becomes president.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Kyiv would like to end the war with Russia next year through "diplomatic means" as both countries prepare for President-elect Donald Trump's return to the White House.

In an interview with the Ukrainian media outlet Suspilne, Zelenskyy said he is certain that the war will end "sooner" than it otherwise would have once Mr. Trump becomes president.

The prospect of Trump returning to power in the United States next year has raised questions about the future of the conflict, as the Republican has been critical of U.S. military aid to Kyiv.

Zelenskyy said that Ukraine "must do everything so that this war ends next year, ends through diplomatic means."

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The best reason to end any war is to ask how everyone can just stop killing one another.
This is modern day civilization, not the barbarian hordes of Europe 1500 years ago.
We have a choice to act civilized or like our ignorant ancestors from thousands of years ago.
- ask yourself in whose interest is it to continue this insane war.
  
  (Military corporations in the US and Russia)
  
  And let's not forget Russia's support from that batch. This war is just another money scheme
  
  True. DC is not an irradiated pile of ruble because of the theater of permawar that Russia eventually wins is the script. US loses all wars because victory ends a war, and brings oil prices back down.
- War is a necessity as long as Imperialism remains the dominant contradiction in the world, we need to move beyond Capitalism to move beyond war.
  
  What's the better alternative to capitalism?
  
  Socialism. I wrote an intro reading list for Marxism if you want to check it out.
  
  Why should my lazy neighbour get the same as me when I work harder or smarter? There in lies the problem with pure socialism.. socialised democracy ( i.e. capitalism with based services for all) is the only palletable stance in that direction.
  
  That's not what Socialism is, or even Communism. In every existing Socialist state, people have gotten higher or lower pay for different levels of intensity or skill. If getting paid the same is "the problem with pure socialism" then it sounds like it's all cleared up!
  Secondly, Social Democracy still relies on Capitalism, which necessarily moves in the direction of increased disparity and centralization of power in fewer and fewer hands. Moreover, as companies spread internationally, Capitalism turns to Imperialism, whereby workers in the Global South are paid a fraction of the wages a worker in the Global North would be paid. This form of hyper-exploitation for super-profits results in dramatically unequal exchange and underdevelopment. Socialism is the way forward, beyond this system of exploitation and eventual collapse.
  I really recommend you give at least the first section of my reading list a try.
  
  You're very confident for one who is so wrong.
- Thousand years from now, the same statement will be made of us. We humans change little.
  
  Humans change quite a bit depending on Mode of Production, which shapes culture and norms.
  
  I absolutely disagree. Lots of history proves that we are still motivated by primal instincts of self preservation. It always comes down to that.
  
  Lots of history proves that humans behaved differently based on the economic system in place. Why do you believe slavery has largely been abolished? Did humans suddenly change their minds about it?
  
  You’re thinking to high level. I’m talking about what actually drives us. Slavery has been largely abolished (but not really) because it’s out of fashion. We haven’t fundamentally changed the way we think. We’re far more alike our ancient ancestors than we think.
  
  No, slavery was abolished because of technological progress and changes in Mode of Production. I'm thinking in a Historical Materialist perspective, there wasn't a random beaming of empathy in humanity.
  
  Slavery still exists in multiple different forms tho
  
  Slavery used to be far more common than it is today.
  
  Whatever, you’re missing the point.
  
  No, I'm not. I am saying you are taking an abstract, idealist analysis that misses real historical motivations.
  
  What drives us ultimately is our material conditions. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you. BTW, Harris’ dad is a Marxist, which is where I’m sure her comment sprang from.

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