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‘No one going to jail’ for avoiding UK national service, says Cleverly

www.theguardian.com ‘No one going to jail’ for avoiding UK national service, says Cleverly

Home secretary says teenagers will not face criminal sanction if they refuse to join military or do volunteer work

So.... not compulsory then? Or do you just get fined or something? Anyway, earliest policy U-turn of the Conservative campaign so far - will it be their best?

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Also, this plan will never happen as we will be out of office on July 5th and Sunak will be living in California by July 30th, says Dimly . . .
- Assuming all the older folks don't vote for this crap.
  
  Honestly I'm 53 myself. But many folks older then me are really keen on this. As they were required to do military service up to the 60s. And see it as having been beneficial. (Nostenga is one hell of a drug)
  
  And while I have never been a fan of the idea. (Our military dose not need ill motivated cannon fodder).
  
  Many my age do seem to thinkmits a good idea.
  
  So it may motivate many annoyed tory voters who have been distanced.
  
  Just like the disabled policies and immigration. The tories are basically picking on people that are less likely to vote tory. (The youth) and trying to launch a culture war with folks more likely to vote tory.
  
  So please, do not get to confident. The tories are good at this sort of crap. Do not count them out until they are dead.
  
  And please make every effort to convince your friend they need to vote.
  
  Now even safe seats are no longer safe. Voting for a non tory pole leader in normal tory safe seats. May well kick a tory MP to the kerb.
  
  EDIT: Do not count them out until they are dead.
  
  I just want to make sure no one reads that as a suggestion to kill a tory MP.
  
  While I may not cry if someone did. I want my rear end well and trully covered. So amnin no way recommending such actions.
  
  Seriosly just take thiere jobs on July 4th. Force them to prostitute themselves to the wealthy friends they have been supporting for the last 14 years. Those guys are pretty sick so justice will be served.
  
  They'd need to be pretty old. My parents were born in the 50s - so avoided national service - and they are in their 70s now. Is the average tory voter older than them?
  
  Yeah you are correct. My parents were born in the 40s so dad served for a while. But dosent support the idea. So even some of that age are sane. Ish :)
  
  But 90yos do vote. And its not just folks who served. As that was mainly men. But folks who looked at their fathers as examples of the great generation. Etc
  
  I honestly don't think its a winning strategy. But then a bacon sandwich also should not form a winning strategy. But did.
  
  The arguments are less dumb then the ones that won the AV and brexit referendum. So I'd still say. Dont underestimate the tories.
- After the last decade or so, I'm not putting anything past the voting public. I'll celebrate the Tories being out of power when the election results are read out, and not a moment before.

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