Felonies, gotta catch 'em all

I like Joe. He did infrastructure and the chips act. He's a meat and potatoes guy. But his best attribute will always be not being Donald Trump.

I don't like Joe. I'm still voting for him because he's not Donald Trump
- Fun fact: 10% of Americans will vote for a guy that had his brain eaten by a worm. Just look at five thirty eight
- Absolutely, but at a certain point people have got to accept that if the best strategic choice they have is still complicit with genocide, then they need to make that strategic choice (libs: I am saying vote for Biden, get the fuck off my back about it) and then work to build an alternative.
  
  If they aren't working against the system, and they get pissy every time someone mentions the genocide because it might hurt their better strategic choice, then they are doing genocide denial. Maybe they're not saying the genocide isn't happening, they're just saying people shouldn't keep bringing it up when it's inconvenient for them. Denying that people should talk about genocide is a kind of genocide denial. If the better option can't survive without genocide denial then maybe the problem isn't the people talking about genocide but the better strategic option being complicit in genocide.
  
  Maybe the problem is a political system that keeps putting genociders in power.
He also didn’t cause inflation or invade hamas or start a war in Afghanistan or any of the other things he was blamed for.
- Now that you mention it, both of the last two Republican presidents signed off on huge bailouts and then blamed the inflation on their Democrat successor. Nixon would be proud!

What's funniest to me is seeing all these posts having downvotes.

Conservatives mad and their tears are delicious.

Schadenfreude has never felt so good.

Or they read it as throwing shade on Biden for being nothing but "Not trump"
- Which would be fair. The shade for running on being the least bad option twice, not the downvotes.
Not as many as I thought I'd get tho, they must be too busy finishing their collage of trump for the next rally.
It's not conservatives. Conservatives aren't on Lemmy.

It's the majority of Democrats who now believe Israel is committing genocide. And who can't afford housing or groceries
- I'm not saying it's not those people, they're definitely a large part of it.
  
  But conservatives are definitely on Lemmy. Just try talking about minority rights anywhere and watch them seep out of the cracks in the pavement to suck all of your energy out.
- Plenty of people here who think Palestinians aren't being genocided.
  
  They still definitely are being genocided through ethnic cleansing almost like what happened to the jews during the holocaust.
  
  But there's plenty of people on lemmy that believe this isn't happening and fully support giving Israel all the weapons they want.

One is a convicted felon, 34 times over, and there is more on the way. The other has never been suspected of any criminal act.

tHeY'rE tHE sAmE! bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe! LoL aMiRiTe

So many idiots can't figure out who's really rigging the game against them, even when it's staring them in the face, blasting them with racist and fascist language and actions, with the breath of chronic bad health habits and the smell of soiled diaper.

Funny how the republicans did their best to start investigations and all they came up with is that his crack head son was bad, which everybody already knew. Good thing I’m not voting for hunter biden.
- I'd vote for Hunter Biden if he was running against Trump. Sure he'd be a terrible President, but still better than Trump.
Don't forget found liable for rape too. Imo worse than his felony charges.
- is that the terminology because of a civil case?
It'll probably get commuted to 1 civil penalty with a $3.50 fine as soon as people stop paying attention.
- Well it was about that time I realized this judge was about eight stories tall and was a crustacean from the plethazoic era.
Idk, he's sponsoring a genocide. I'm pretty sure that counts as war crimes. To be fair it's not like any US president in the last half century hasn't been some kind of war criminal.

I mean now that the other guy is a literal criminal it makes it less likely that the genocide sponsor's refusal to remove his material support for a historically unpopular genocide will make him lose election to the literal criminal, and that's true. But like, I just want you to understand what it is that you're celebrating.

I don't know a stronger way to say that the bar is in hell, but that phrase is so well worn that it's lost any punch it ever had.

Edit: typically, the only responses seem to think I'm saying this in support of Trump but like... I'm not. So if you remove that imagined motivation, where's the lie? There isn't one, right?
- The other guy, the one with 34 felonies, has said he'd help expand the genocide.
  
  How do you miss these things?
- I don't believe it's as unpopular as you think. The one-state (final) solution has been the only acceptable answer for decades, and everyone turned a blind eye to turning Gaza into a prison while "settlers" terraform the West Bank.
  
  The other guy moved his embassy to disputed territory, firmly claiming the whole of Jerusalem for one side. "Their 911" plays a huge part in maufacturing consent in casual observers, and "never again" was always tongue-in-cheek.
  
  Honestly, does anyone still care about the enslavement and cultural destruction of Chinese Uyghurs? How about the Rohingya genocide?
  
  This election comes down to narcissistic boomers who believe the world should die with them. Their pop religion tells them armageddon will happen in their lifetime and the other guy is offering a way to make it happen.
  
  Life has been objectively getting worse for years. The end of the world (or at least the american experiment) is on the ballot - the question is whether enough voters want to burn it all down.
The other has never been suspected of any criminal act.

No crimes but war crimes
- So is Trump ....and Obama ...and pretty much all of them? It's a war crime only when it's done by US enemies
Guess I’m an idiot, because I know about the Leahy Law.

Now retired, Mr Leahy has voiced concerns that US support for Israel's war in Gaza has breached his namesake policy. source

”On this one, I think that there are violations of the Leahy Law,” he recently told Vermont local media.

I'd vote for a convicted felon. Fuck, I almost was one.

Now, a pedophilic misogynistic cheeto? Nah, I'll take the sleepy dude.

This is why memes such as this are shitty. It throws convicted felons into the pile of just "bad people" and doesn't think anything of it.
- Agreed. Nuance and meme rarely play well together though, so my expectations don't have me up in arms over it.
- That kind of crap is how conservatives see people (in my experience), so it’s a little bit funny to see that reasoning turned against their ridiculous hero.
- Convicted felons are by definition bad people cause they commited a felony.

I think what's wild is that particular group's incredible thought process of "oh yeah, the current guy is just doing a hit job on this other guy because he's running for President. He's sending all these various agencies after him. blah blah blah..."

And I'm just like. Or you know, simple answer is that guy is doing crime stuff and ought not to be doing crime stuff. To really over simplify the most recent crime stuff. The crime was he wrote the wrong thing on the sheet of paper. You look at the paper, it says it's for lawyer stuff. You look at the receipts shows the money went to hide sex stuff. Lawyer stuff ≠ hide sex stuff. Ta-da!

And a bit more detail. The whole argument that hiding sex stuff wasn't political money. Literally a letter between crime guy and other person handling political stuff was, we need to hide this sex stuff otherwise that could hurt us in election stuff. Like I get it that there's some folks wanting to believe that President guy is just mad at crime guy and wants to whatever him so that President guy can stay in office. But crime guy literally admitted crime stuff in letters he thought no one else would ever read. Crime guy is not a very smart crime guy.

I don't like current guy, don't get me wrong. But crime guy is an idiot. I just don't want an idiot back as President. There's just way too many people hitched to an idiot here and willing to go down with the ship. Crime guy is an idiot and he's getting smacked with a lot of the crime shit he's done because he's an idiot. There's not any other way to slice this. Crime guy is just not good at anything and is coasting on mom and dad money still. If anything, that Crime guy is still floating on some money is a testament to Crime guy's book keeper.

So this is what an echo chamber does to a person. Gosh that was painful to read.

I like presidents who aren't convicted felons.

I like presidents who aren't corrupt octogenarians.
- Yeah. Obviously if a candidate is a criminal that should invalidate them in the eyes of any sane voter, but really the bar should be a lot higher for anyone to be happy with their choice. The real motivation shouldn't be to vote for the lesser of 2 evils and call it good enough, it should be to literally fight back against corruption until we have options we actually like. Obviously it's too late for that in this election, but we should already be getting started in the fights to get someone worthwhile in the 2028 elections.

Please explain to a non American, why a convicted felon not in federal prison but instead running for president?

I dont know, I'm Aussie, my politicians jack off on their colleagues work desks.
- Is that a metaphor? Please that be a metaphor...
Orange man is litteraly a russian asset and it should be enough to jail him…

But to answer on a theorical level you cannot prevent felons from politic in a democratic society, otherwise you just throw accusations at your opponent to win elections and sadly it happen in a lot of places
He hasn't been sentenced yet and won't be for months. Its possible that he won't be sentenced until after the election. He's also been indicted for paying the porn star, Stormy Daniels, hush money.

So, out-of-context, its just another rich dude doing money crime in the US. Its not like he's been convicted of being a russian asset or doing war crimes. Convention is to give him a slap on the wrist. But external political pressures and him being a unique dumbass to the judge will probably result in a tougher sentencing. But I doubt there will be any prison time, even white collar.

Also you cans still run for president from prison. Eugene V. Debs ran as the Socialist Party candidate while jailed for sedition during WWI.
- will be sentenced on July 11th.
  
  the crime is election fraud - money was just the method he used to do it.

That's a pretty low bar...

Be thankful we have a bar and pray that I don't remove it altogether. (/J)
Give Americans a couple of more terms and someone will run like that but without sarcasm.
Our choices are three old dudes. Two are senile and one is brain damaged.

The bar's low but so are the standards this time around.
- Convicted felons can't vote, but they can run for office.

On one side I have an old catholic bum who overall doesn't do much on the other I have a convicted felon who wishes to remove my human rights and wants to turn the country into a dictatorship.

As a centrist, I'm undecided...

Also from my interactions on here:

On one side I have an old catholic bum who is committing genocide (by allowing companies to sell to a man who is committing genocide), and in the other side I have a convicted felon who would absolutely continue the genocide while removing my human rights and wants to turn the country into a dictatorship.

As a leftist, these two are exactly the same and I'm not voting.

Good enough for me.

Very low bar to clear. Wish we had higher standards for presidential candidates.

Sounds very reasonable

So the charges are cool, but, like, I feel that trump deserves a refund from that hooker.

He got what he paid for
- Except for the silence 💀

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Please keep politics out of this shitpost community

lol, lmao
- rofl even
I'm sorry you think shitposts aren't political.
Sorry mum.
Mod here. I currently couldn't give less of a shit.

...But I'm willing to change my mind.
- Idk I just find it tiring when I go to meme subs to have fun and relax and instead I get reminded of how downhill stuff is going. Plus sometimes people have arguments in the comments which isn't a very lightheaded or shitposty thing

So the campaign hasn't changed.

"Don't question my genocide or I'll have cops beat you up and arrest you while demanding order. And I'm not Trump. Biden2024."

Are you too young or too stupid to remember how Trump employed law enforcement during the BLM protests?
- Are you to senile or stupid to know that Trump has nothing to do with Biden's platform?
No its "use your own damn money to silence the pornstar you banged you cheap fuck"