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SpaceX fails to repeat Starship catch, as Trump looks on

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Look u dont need to like the guy to admit that spacex is possibly the most important advancement in human technology advancement in our generation. We must become a multiplanetary spiecies and i dont give a fuck who it takes to make that happen.
- What do you care when it's only the elite that will make it there? The rest of us will burn here on earth
  
  I care cos the survival of our speicies is more important than any individual or their ideology. Plus i recon i got a real chance at being said elite.
  
  I'd argue that if we can't protect the little guy from the billionaires, then the race has no business continuing on into space.
  
  So ur posing an ultimatum where one case is the extermination of our entire speicies the genociding of our enture spiecies.
  
  Is that what u really stand for? The willing genocide of 8billion people?
  
  Hypothetically if the ultra rich built this up and got to a point where humanity is ending, and they could save 10,000 of their friends and hanged-oners, but everyone else on Earth dies, and you have a button that could trap them here, would you poke it?
  
  Are there any extra effects if I push the button quicker or more than once? I gotta know if I should worry about spraining my finger or not.
  
  Well first i believe thw earth won't get to the point its completely lost except if we have a astroid strike or sonthibg of the sort. And second i probably wouldnt simply cos i believe humanity is worth saving over being a spitefull cunt.
  
  U didnt answer my question would u willingly genocide 8billion people simply to get revenge on 1?
  
  I wouldn’t kill 8 billion to get revenge on one person, nah. I’d happily let 10,000 billionaires die though if they were abandoning Earth and letting 8 billion people die. They’ve had innumerable chances to help lift up humanity and instead all they do is enrich themselves at the expense of the 99.999%, why the fuck would I care about humanity surviving if that’s what ‘humanity’ is being defined as?
  
  Honestly given current technology, it makes the most sense to care for the Earth than attempt to colonize other planets, which are fundamentally unlivable in a myriad of ways. Survival of our species doesn't mean a whole lot if it is 8 guys in a Mars base dependent on regular supply missions from Earth.
  
  Not to mention, if we do focus on our planet and how to best manage the environment, it teaches lessons on how to potentially manage other planets' one day.
  
  Is it, though? If only the selfish, egotistical, wealthy assholes make it off, I'd argue that I could care less about our "species" surviving. Fuck these people.
  
  I love this narrative that space colonization is about getting the "elite" off Earth after they’ve supposedly ruined it, leaving the rest of us behind. And then what? Are the elite going to sit inside a tiny capsule on Mars for the rest of their lives, eating potatoes and drinking recycled urine?
  
  If an asteroid were about to impact Earth and I had to choose between the elite escaping to another planet or humanity going extinct, I’d gladly let the elite survive to restart civilization elsewhere.
  
  You think those selfish dicks, who would rather fuck off to another planet instead of try to curb their own behavior to fix this one, are gonna create some idea egalitarian society?
  
  Fuck no, they're gonna have a slave class to do all the work for them.
  
  That would still better than the extinction of human race.
  
  Thank god for slavery then, right?
  
  Yeah that's essentially what I've been arguing here for.
- I'm a huge space fan/nerd, but LHC is far more impressive if you consider it to be of our generation. Even if not, ITER takes the spot, IMO (although I admit some personal bias when it comes to ITER).
  
  ITER seems interesting to me. What gets you excited about ITER? Seems to me that their operational timeline is so far in the future, and the outcomes are unknown. As an engineering artifact, I understand its boner factor. From a broader human achievement standpoint, I can't really see what all the buzz is about. I want to learn and try to understand.
  
  It's a fusion reactor (same mechanism that powers the Sun) powered by basically water (the main isotope of "fusion fuel" is deuterium, which is found in ocean water). It'll produce extremely clean energy, and the science behind it is just mezmerizing. It isn't just buzz neither, as fussion-product plasma has been achivements in some labs around the world.
  
  Like, seeing this image and feeling we created a mini-Sun (not an accurate representation, but bear with me) in that small space is... I don't know, just wow. The Sun, an absurdily giant object fuels itself with complex mechanism and a balance between gravity and fussion, and we will have same object there.
  
  One part of my bias is also because things like ITER really animated me to become a physicist. I do concede that while LHC is the no doubts the winner for me, ITER vs SpaceX is a closer match.
  
  As a bonus, from a broader humanity perspective, it also comes from an international cooperation of countries, including rivaling nations, that came together to fund a project that will symbolize a huge advance in the nuclear field, intead of a single person trying to get richer.
- Agreed. SpaceX has and continues to do awesome shit. Elon simply bought the company. I don't equate the two.
  
  He founded and personally funded a majority of its R&D.
  
  Sure. But it is his money and he is in change so he does deserve some credit. To what degree tho is debatable.
  
  Government contract money. Our money.

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