Hell Yeah

Right, so the "where" is the USA.

If we take this definition of the generations and table 12 from here, we can compare the values 16 years apart to see generations at equivalent ages. 2023 is the most recent data on that table, so millennials would be 27 to 42. We can't match that perfectly with the 5 year bins on the table, so I'll just average every bin that that generation covers a majority of. With that, we get:

We can compare generations at the same age by looking along the topleft-bottomright diagonal. This shows gen Z having a lower ownership rate than Millennials did 16 years ago. Millennials were doing better than gen X 16 years before that, but have now fallen behind both gen X and the boomers.

Sure enough, the entirety of the discussion of homeownership in the article you linked is:

American Zoomers’ home-ownership rates are higher than millennials’ at the same age (even if they are lower than previous generations’).

Not sure what data they're using since that doesn't tally with the above, but that's still second-worst, and the actual worst is the generation the post is actually talking about.

Your link is paywalled. But I've also heard this before and the main reason for this is that we've changed how inflation is measured, among other things. I don't like replying with a half-hour video link but coldfusion's "why is gen z so poor" Video gives a good overview, also using the article you linked as a source in the video.

The wording is highly biased and the article is poorly sourced. Here's another link for the article referred to: https://archive.ph/wJJZv .

The Fed working papers ctrl-f "generation" -> : https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/feds/has-intergenerational-progress-stalled-income-growth-over-five-generations-of-americans.htm - the pdf paper includes the figures with non-biased language and here's the conclusion:

Using data from 1963 through 2022, we evaluate whether younger generations are seeing slower income growth relative to the generations that came before. We confirm that there has been a slowdown in intergenerational progress, except for Millennials who saw their incomes grow slightly faster than Generation X but still more slowly than Baby Boomers and the Silent Generation. Intergenerational progress has remained positive for all generations. Positive growth has been maintained for Generation X and Millennials in spite of their stalled growth in hours worked. We investigate the role of two potential explanations for perceptions of worsening outcomes for Millennials despite their observed income growth relative to previous generations. First, we find that the higher household incomes of Millennials relative to Generation X, through their 20s, is a result of dependence on their parents rather than a rise in their own market incomes. By age 31, however, less than 10 percent of Millennials are still dependent on their parents and by then their own market incomes exceed that of previous generations. Second, we find that the rising cost of college offsets only a small portion of the income gains achieved by Millennials, especially when accounting for the growing generosity of financial aid. Our results focus on aggregate comparisons across generations, as opposed to direct comparisons between individuals and their own parents. Each type of comparison provides important information about absolute improvements in economic wellbeing across generations. Future research should continue to consider alternative measures of wellbeing for evaluating intergenerational progress, including consumption, wealth and social wellbeing (e.g., Fisher and Johnson 2022). Results on changes in wellbeing over time, including the intergenerational 26 progress made in rising incomes, should inform discussions about how best to promote wellbeing in the future.

Gratitude - I learned something despite the misleading trailhead.

I’m not saying there aren’t gen z who are suffering. You’re one of many and I’m sorry for that.

Millennials still, as a generation, have it objectively worse financially.

I protested during OWS and got pepper sprayed for it. I worked for the Bernie campaign just to see the DNC royally fuck their base in the ass no lube. The only peaceful action we have left is a general strike and everybody’s struggling so hard trying to fend for themselves that no one has it in them to organize a strike let alone all the fucking bootlickers who’d be against a unified labor action anyways.

We’re fucked. Violence appears to be the only answer, and for now it’s only the far right with an appetite for it. And they love the state.

Laughs in blue collar. When this country collapses, as it is currently doing, what are you gonna do with the skills from your fancy laptop job?

You’re extremely privileged. I didn’t have a college fund, I was coerced into taking out a mortgage on my worthless education.

My mom is on the brink of homelessness (she lost the house after dad died) and my dad is dead (thank you for profit american healthcare system). Despite being college educated, the most money I’ve ever consistently made per hour is $25. I’m just barely getting by, and jobs in my field pay less than what I currently make as a valet driver with tips (~35 an hour but half is tips).

Unless I win the lottery or fall into exceptionally lucky circumstances, I will never have a house of my own. And all I want is a simple house with a mother in law apartment so my mom and I can share the house but live in separate quarters.

Being in vermont I’m surrounded by rich people and my job is a pointless job fellating the egos of the rich. They hate us and we hate them.

There are types of loans that require 0% down. It's difficult, though, because monthly payments will be higher. Still a valid approach in some parts of the country. I managed to buy my first home this way with no help from my parents - and yes it was in the Midwest where no one wants to live.

Saf?

When did you buy? 2017/2018/2019?

The last time I could even think of getting a house was back then, and the prices here went up at least four fold.

Most millennials I know can’t afford houses and never could. If they didn’t buy before covid they can’t buy until the market crashes again.

Also you’re not gen z. The oldest gen zs are like 25… hence mommy and daddy’s money.

Gen z didn’t have a decade of extremely suppressed wages to account for, and if they graduated right into a cush work from home “job” during covid they won’t have any financial difficulties at all. They’re not dealing with the compound lost interest of a lost decade.