lemmy.ml and hexbear.net has been banned in China
lemmy.ml and hexbear.net has been banned in China
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763330
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763328
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/6137607
now users must use VPN for login lemmy.ml
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I'm not happy with this development, but I'm slightly amused by the irony being that lemmy.ml is pro-china and has been moderated as such.
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Hexbear might as well be the CCP propaganda wing, this development is fucking hilarious
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I was curious what lemmy.ml has to say about this but it seems the linked post was deleted in the meantime 🤡
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It's my fault. I signed up for it before I realized it was a pro China instance and the other day I said I'm not a Communist.
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I feel like I might have legitimately helped as well by mocking them incessantly for being campists and not socialists
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Where you drunk?
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Who, me? Never.
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Why aren't you a communist?
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The poster was banned for trolling but I saw a comment showing that it is real.
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It is definitely blocked.
Source: I'm in Mainland China.
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West Taiwan*
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Saying that is what China wants.
You’re reaffirming the one China policy and keeping the status quo.
Conflating Taiwan and China means Taiwan can never move onto independence.
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Taiwan seems very independent already though and the vast majority of the world feels the same way.
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This took a major hit just a few years ago when the UK officially backed out.
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It looks like this info is out of date based on a quick search. https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-parliament-calls-taiwan-independent-country-report-says-james-cleverly-visit-china/
That said, UK support or not seems to have had little to no impact.
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Taiwan is its own country, always has been. china would be lucky to be known as the geographical-offshoot of Taiwan.
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I recently commented on !memes@lemmy.ml in a post that shouldn't have been there about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and instead of removing the post they removed my comment while lying about the reasons, and the modlog is full of those.
All of lemmy.ml should be considered suspect, and I'm not sure if lemmy itself shouldn't be as well - anonymous voting, comments removed from communities are also removed from personal user profiles on your user host, no warning when your comments are removed ... it's basically everything that was rife for abuse with reddit, except handed to developers who get the first say about where lemmy is heading who clearly have fringe questionable political biases.
It's funny, because from lemmy.ml on a clean session, I'm not seeing the same politically charged posts being prioritized as I'm seeing on lemmy.world to their platform ... I'm considering switching to my kbin.social account - which begs the question, shouldn't there be an option to migrate user accounts between servers?
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I don't understand why the pro China tanked subs would get banned but not the rest.
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Even China is embarrassed. You ever had someone defend you but really poorly? Ya.
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This is exactly it.
I'm moving to China for work, so I'm interested in alternative points of view on Chinese society from the usual U.S. mainstream media CCP hate boner. I checked out hexbear, and... my goodness.
They cheer for a version of China that the Chinese themselves would be embarrassed by. It's clearly driven by 14-year-old white boy edgelords who are enamored with a hardcore Marxist-Leninist vision of China that never existed, most likely in reaction to a dislike of modern Western capitalism. I mean, they referenced "struggle sessions" with nostalgia and cheer for Bashar al-Assad because China is being friendly to him.
Real-life China is quite different from the depictions you see on main Lemmy instances, but it sure as hell isn't anything like what the tankies are jerking off to, either.
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It feels like most Western CCP cheerleaders are basically cheering on a pre-Deng version of the CCP and haven't quite noticed that the CCP of today would totally purge anyone pushing the pre-Deng/pre-1978 views of the CCP.
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"China" isn't "embarrassed" by lemmy.ml or hexbear.net. "China" just shuts down access to non-Chinese social media sites as they are discovered. Any social media site that isn't currently blocked in China is on numbered days until they are blocked, whether "pro-China" or "anti-China".
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This is true. I was kidding. That said, the Chinese government does engage in social media. And they probably would see lemmy users as a poor messenger, if they cared about lemmy.
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They might spread western ideas of communism in China. That’s not something China can allow.
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Communism with western characteristics?
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Communism as understood by one who has read Marx and isn’t interested in the details of creating it.
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Right? I and others were also banned from talking about China and Uyghurs on world news on lemmy.ml
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Is there really any irony? China has troll factories operating on popular factories like Twitter and Facebook, and those are banned in China as well.
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How is lemmy.ml pro china?
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ML stands for Marxist leninist, which means they love authoritarian regimes that don't like the US. The number of them that unironically stan Stalin is baffling.
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.ml is the top level domain for Mali, it doesn't have anything to do with Marxist-Leninism by itself. They may have chosen it as a tongue in cheek reference, but it is also a cheaper alternative to other more popular tlds like .com.
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Right. And TV means Tuvalu but it actually means television far more often than Tuvalu when it’s used in a domain name.
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how many websites have you seen use it based on its meaning of marxist leninist versus how many have used tv for television?
lemmy and lemmygrad, can you name others?
I hate them for ccp/russia propaganda but this is straight up mental bubble made up by some edgelord with no rational argument.
Just because you want it to be so, doesn't make it.
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Here is the rest of the story: the people who chose the subdomain chose .ml because they want it to mean marx-lenin... that's why it means that for them.
Generally you are right. In this specific instance it was chosen for the fascism.
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Okay, but. Are they Marxist-Leninist? Pro-China? Socialists? Anti-capitalists? Looks like: yes. Was the whole thing founded on the grounds of free, shared things and anti-corporate thinking? Also yes. Do we absolutely know for sure that the ML domain was chosen because of this? No, because the fucking register of the domain himself said it was chosen because it was free.
It was simply just free. People and their "knowledge" about topics they don't know anything about...
https://lemmy.ml/comment/58293
Dessalines is the owner of the domain, one of the owners of the ML instance and one of the full-time devs of the Lemmy code.
I think an overwhelming number of people simply chose that instance becuase it was the instance, made by the devs themselves. At least it was the case for me.
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.ml domain names used to be free (together with .ga I think it was) through freenom so it might just be that they snagged themselves a free domain that just happened to be ml.
Not saying you couldn't be right but not everything is quite as well thought out as it first seems.
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ML is machine learning. It means they love teaching AI to overthrow the illuminati government lizard people. Can't believe u didn't know that, kinda embarrassing
Sees some use in Mali and for some websites about machine learning. Use is relatively rare elsewhere.
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Oh no... It's retarded.
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This is some top-tier shitposting, in case you missed it.
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Probably. I'm so used to brain damaged tankies on lemmy so pie's law is in full effect.
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