News @lemmy.world jeffw @lemmy.world 6mo ago

If Trump’s conviction lands him in prison, the Secret Service goes too.

www.nytimes.com Live Updates: TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS IN HUSH-MONEY CASE

Donald J. Trump, the former president and presumptive 2024 Republican nominee, was convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in a case stemming from a payment that silenced a porn star.

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Sounds much cheaper than what they pay to stay at his hotels.
- I thought this was a joke at first.
  
  It's not.
  
  And it’s still happening
- I think you mean much cheaper than what WE pay for them to stay at his hotel. That's tax payers' money. Fuck that guy.
I’m good with that. Lock him the fuck up.
The current record for number of US presidental votes received while in prison is about 1,000,000. Eugene V. Debs is the record holder, and that election was in 1920. Trump just may beat him this year. There is no law that says you can't be president while in prison.
- It's not like Trump is going to prison for this. He's old, has no record, and did serve as president, regardless of how people feel about it. Plus, he's going to appeal, which means this thing will drag on long enough to still not matter, sadly.
  
  In the state of New York, you serve time while awaiting appeal. If the judge opts to remand him to house arrest, which I think is the most likely outcome, his ass is staying put until his next court date.
  
  But we can still hope
  
  He has a record. He also was convicted of ~~rape~~ sexual assault and also defaming said woman twice.
  
  Yes but he also disrespected the court (falling to sleep and badmouthing people on social media), shows no remorse (claiming innocence despite a unanimous jury) had 34 charges against him (all unanimous) and did it to trick his way into the highest position in office. Which should all be considered when sentencing.
  
  I'd agree with you if he had up to maybe 15-20 felonies. He got 34. What grounds do you think he can appeal on?
  
  No record might matter if it wasn’t for 34 counts. If it was one or two non-violent felonies that could be made whole, could be weekends or lots of community service. But 34? No one gets to use the “I was a good little boy” defense on that.
- There is no law that says you can’t be president while in prison.
  
  This is so a ruling leader can't imprison all his competition and thus win another election by default.
  
  Agreed. But in this specific case it's frustrating.
Would be a good thing if the service were denied to convicted felons. Go a long way to legitimizing it
I wonder why? It's not like anything bad ever happens to high-profile inmates, just ask Jeffery Epstein...

Obligatory /s
- When will Harambe's curse leave us.
  
  Not enough people whipped it out.
  
  We’re forever doomed until the mass flashing event that frees of us our sins.
- Except here his kids will turn on him like they have been raised to do. No one close to him really cares about him.
Whyyy are we still posting paywall'd links to places???
- Because actual journalism costs money.
  
  I'd agree but there is a lot of "actual journalism" that is freely accessible. ProPublica, for example.
- Real paywall (text not sendet) is rare, you can see the full article by disabling JS in your obligatory adblock extension.
  
  Doesn't seem to work here, the "show more" button doesn't work.
Good.
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- No guns in that part of the prison.
  
  El Chapo was known for his elaborate tunnel escapes.
- What's this about Pence? I don't remember this
  
  During the Jan6 riot, the Secret Service tried to get Mike Pence into a car with agents that Pence didn’t recognize. The worry was that the agents were either rogue, or working directly for Trump.
  
  Either way, Pence refused to get into the car because he knew he had to certify the election, which meant he had to stay in the building. His worry was that rogue agents (or agents taking orders from Trump) would spirit him away and prevent him from certifying the results.
Bullshit. SS will just be disbanded. Theyre not going to allow a protection detail in a prison for a single prisoner, that would be ludicrously silly
Ever thought of Secret Service using the same abbreviation as nazi german Schutzstaffel?
- Isn't the abbreviation USSS
  
  I wonder if they changed it to that for obvious reasons
- U.S.S.S was founded in 1865
- The Nazis ripped off the US.
INFORMATION ACCURACY WARNING: This is a New York Times (“NYT”) article. Proceed with skepticism
- INFORMATION ACCURACY WARNING: This user is spewing nonsense lol
  
  lmao, perfect response
- A story is only as good as its sources. I take NYT coverage on Israel/Hamas with a grain of salt because a lot of information comes directly from the IDF. NYT coverage though of peace talks, or domestic issues, is completely different. Even then, I'm usually skeptical of their polling methodology.
  
  A better information accuracy warning would be to take nothing as absolute truth and critically examine their bias and sources. Because I guarantee, there is no publication that an information accuracy warning wouldn't apply to. I've seen progressive publications do a bad job at this too.
  
  Yes! Agreed. Yours is the only sane, thoughtful, realistic response— and I thank you for it. Upvoted 👍
- I’d apologise bc I haven’t even read the article, but it IS the nyt so who knows who paid for this article to be published
  
  *paid as in actual cash, favours, golf tee times, yacht party invites, private jet use, etc
  
  How delusional you are.

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