Is it “gifted” to them, or are they paying taxpayer dollars to purchase these war machines? When they’re turning our local communities into war zones, some of us might even question whether we should reduce their funding significantly if this is what they’re squandering our money on.
Watch them cower inside of this vehicle, idling in the parking lot as a school shooter empties one magazine after another.
They pay little to nothing to get them, then they pay everything to keep, maintain, and store it. As someone else noted, looks like it's already leaking oil.
Let's say you're a cop and you get a call: there's a hispanic gay crossdresser armed with a .50BMG sniper rifle with explosive rounds reported on the roof of the KwikeeMart, and they're threatening to shoot the Walmart across the street unless they're called by their proper pronouns, black lives/matter. This situation calls for an immediate response with at least a MRAP, and that's only because they don't have the funding for an airstrike from an A-10.
Yeah I mean they would need an MRAP to keep them safe while they wait for the shooter to finish up or run out of ammo. We've got to think of the officers and their safety.
Operating an A-10, without firing its nose gun, runs about 19k-25k and hour. A full load of rounds is 1200. They fire at a rate of 3900 rounds per minute. The rounds, depending on the exact type, cost between 90 and 175$ per round. This also doesn't include the cost of maintaining the gun which incurs a lot of maintenance because of all the heat, and forces, involved.
No, shilling for Russia will get you labeled as a tankie. Not wanting police to have what is essentially a light tank, will not get you labeled as a tankie. Don't try to dilute the term.
Looks like they are ready to violently suppress the rioting MAGAts when they riot after their criminal leader is imprisoned. What's that? Those that work forces are the same that burn crosses? I guess they're ready for any counter-protestors.
I suggest anyone interested in the history of police militarization pick up Radley Balko’s Rise of the Warrior Cop. There are so many tiny little towns with fully kitted out SWAT teams. Cops are taught to view themselves as soldiers in hostile territory. They go to trainings where they’re taught bullshit science to encourage them to kill.
They are soldiers in hostile territory. They're occupying indigenous land. Killing a cop isn't murder, it's warfare according to the proper rules of engagement.
The "tank" was gonna be built either way. These items are purchased through a program that allows the military to sell off surplus equipment to law enforcement. So, basically, it's a way of subsidizing the v already insane US military budget with money drawn from municipal and state taxes, while getting military hardware into the hands of cops.
For them every black person, LGBTQ person and woman who wants to own their own body by having an abortion is a criminal. And according to right wing extremist propaganda the leftists are extremely dangerous, so I guess that would justify the purchase of military equipment.
Do you have any idea how deadly woke people are? Every time someone shouts "black lives matter" a white Karen's feelings are hurt. The only way to combat this is assault rifles and infantry vehicles.
Very normal for suburbs (particularly white suburbs adjacent to black urban neighborhoods) to act like they're living in a war zone, because they saw a guy in a durag smoking a scary cigarette outside of the gym.
Police don't but they often want a vehicle for SWAT related reasons, but SWAT trucks costs hundreds of thousands. Meanwhile MRAPs are "free".
Prosper, Texas is home to 40,000 people. In 2010 their population was under 10k. They have quadrupled in size and are near the DFW area, so it's not really a surprise they took the 1033 offer for an MRAP. That said most of these decom'd heaps of shit are loathesomely expensive. "High Cost of Free MRAPs" by Strongtowns. Most MRAPs being given out are first and second gen versions. And for those first gens, they got sent to the front lines of the GWOT and got beat to shit while newer ones were tested and approved. These old models they're "giving out for free" have tire drum parts never used on later versions, transmissions like that of an F650 with half the reliability, and are ticking time bombs of use. Most cities often estimate maintenance costs at $5k per year, until something actually breaks and they have to get a second MRAP to cannibalize to fix the first. (Hint - that's why you often see them picked up in pairs or more)
That's before the optics. Petaluma, California has one and the police chief has even said "yeah it kinda has some bad optics sending police around in a former war machine".
If your city is wanting to pick one up, it's because someone who has zero experience with them really likes the idea of a big scary diesel monster rolling up on drug houses, and hasn't actually considered that if they can't pony up thousands of tax dollars every 6 months to keep the moneymonster fed, the only place it's gonna drive is into a storage shed.
Edit: I should add that these vehicles are incredibly versatile and aren't necessarily a bad thing for municipalities. With their ride height, sheer bulk, and high torque engines, Fire and rescue could probably make great use them in several cities. They make fantastic road clearing vehicles in the event of large accidents needing to move to the side of the road, or pushing debris out of the way. Additionally in flood prone areas they make very good rescue vehicles due to their ride height and "crew space" inside. They DO have value outside of terrorizing civilian populations, just that that's all PDs will use them for.
This is probably more dangerous for them then a normal car. The features that make a MRAP good at surviving an IED also make them top heavy and easy to roll. I'm fairly sure they are more likely to have a reckless driver behind the wheel then have a roadside bomb.
I have a feeling this will sit in a garage most days. It will only come out for July 4th parades and to drive through some brown persons house "accidentally" during a welfare check.
You know that thing has gotta be a hangar queen that measures efficiency in gallons per mile. I guess the towncs educators are gonna have to tighten their belts some more.
OBVIOUSLY it's so that next time there's a SCHOOL SHOOTING they can rock up in STYLE while they wait for the Shooter to run out of Bullets or Bodies whichever happens first!
I've never wanted to blow something up so bad in my life. I mean, I don't want anyone to get hurt and I wouldnt actually do this since its stupid, but the desire is very strong.
The fun thing is a lot of smaller departments find out after they get something like this, they can't afford to actually use or maintain them. Shit be expensive yo.
My extremely rural county of 60k population has one for some reason. The best part is, the one time there was actually an armed and dangerous individual on the run, they called in aid from a major city an hour away. They did however parade around with it and strongly consider actually pulling at the tractor pull with it
It's absolutely wannabe soldier types being jealous of the military toys and begging to have have them paid for by the cities.
You don't look to your neighbor anymore to keep up with the Jones' you now know of and look at hyper specialized interests and tools.
Similar to how people have entire production centers in their houses revolving around resin crafting and 3D printing. Now everyone can get the cancer they were so jealous of.
My extremely rural county of 60k population has one for some reason.
The reason is that it's decommissioned from the military and police forces get a massive discount on buying equipment decommissioned from the military.
Unless they come equipped with cameras around their perimeters, anyone could sneak up to one and plant a couple bricks of semtex with remote detonators in strategic places and that safety gets real sketchy
I mean, in any revolution within the US, it would be cops trying to play soldier vs the citizens in the initial moves.
Folks like to think the army, or the marines are what we would be fighting. Maybe eventually, after things get far enough along, but the first steps in seizing control is removing the police because they're the ones that will be guarding property and responding to attacks against politicians and/or oligarchs.
Of course the cops want to play soldier. There's enough of them in place because they're infiltrators from extremist groups. Often the most rabid racist groups. It's no secret at all that their plan is to be in place to seize control themselves.
I don't buy into the literal acab bullshit, only the systemic version. But that system is bad, and part of what's making it worse is this kind of thing. Those assholes right there? Those are the guys you'll want to be watching if shit gets real.
Which is funny because part of the reason to have civilian police is that they don't report to the military and ideally would side with the civilians against a tyrannical government.
They get to be abhorrently expensive. Newark NJ got 2 Vietnam era helicopters (one for parts only) and in 5 years spent 1.13 million just keeping it around to fly for 4 hours every other Friday/Saturday.
Where i live it's awfully common to use large vehicles like this to rescue people in flood waters. They have boats too for the deeper sections but trucks like this can roll through a neighborhood nonstop to search and rescue people.
But don't you see it makes perfect sense? Now they can wait outside schools with an active shooter in safety! Wouldn't want any officers getting hurt when children are getting shot now would we?
Storing it 10 hours north of the border (assuming it can reach highway speeds and only needs to stop for gas twice) might not be the strategic move you think it is
Yeah, I’m sure you attended police academy, or served in the military, right? If you had, one of the first things they would tell you is to not have social media.