Netflix mulls introducing free ad-supported tier. The circle is complete

Some shows we've watched spend their time "recapping" after the 'ad breaks", playing same scenes we just saw. Drives me nuts, wastes my time and feels so dated.

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Its painfully obvious when watching Star Trek TNG.

I don't mind those breaks... It feels like going to the next chapter in a book.

But actual ads, yea, not for a service that costs.

Though this whole thing is funny - they collect even more user data than they did with cable or broadcast, and now want to show you ads too.

Can't wait to finish my media server setup.

There are also shows that based jokes around the fact that they were going to or just came back from a commercial break and now you don't have those in those shows. And now, I guess, they'll go back to editing shows for ads.

What a weird modern landscape we've made for ourselves.

modern shows frame things differently to account for people watching on tiny phone screens and we might be bothered a few years down the line when we get holodecks or mind control implants

It's even worse if you're watching competition shows:
"Coming up: things you're going to see in the next 5 minutes."
"Welcome back: recap of what you've seen in the last 5 minutes."

I would be fine with that if it was free and didn't reply the ads if I stop and resume.

If I am paying money, then ads are unacceptable.

I wish they wouldn't do that. If i have to hear about Southern New Hampshire University again I'm gonna hurt somebody.

If I agree to free thing and have to watch ads, aight fine.

But at least make them different man, i hate that they play the same one over and over again. It does not make me want to buy your product.

You engage with the skip button

Fuck, these days even in shows that are edited for commercials, they'll ignore those breaks and just put ads wherever they feel like it

That shit should be illegal.

It's okay.

Executives got were they are by being smart and making good decisions, not by listening to idiots on the internet.

Why not sell a book that has that information at grocery stores?

I'd probably end up watching that more than I watch the shows.

This is a bit unnecessarily tough on independent content creators... what exactly do you expect them to do? Make no money from their content? How would they be able to make a living?

Who reveres and emulates PewDiePie lol

Like that was the time to wake up and hate every single one of these content creators for selling out

And then what? Stop consuming their content?

Im the one that was paying for Netflix for my family, but the password crack down motivated me to learn how to build a server and go full arrs. They had a good thing going, but now that $26 a month will be used to buy hdds.

What I fears is that its a matter of time before entertainment industry figures out a way to stop those services. I've even begun to see discussions that open source may be struggling to remain relevant. Whose taking over for the power houses from early days. So much talent out there. But I really worry the community will shrink over time because we all raiser a generation on the concept of monetization rather than open collaboration. I look out on the internet and the loudest voices are artists and content creators. Both groups who push the fuck you pay me mentality that I believe was not what we all had originally on the internet and it makes me so worried to think how that will only grow if there is no push back.

That will only go so far unfortunately. And network level ad blocking won’t protect you from their ads if they’re served from the same servers the content is.

What hardware do you use? I have a pihole. Unfortunately it doesn't block ads on Youtube except in the web browser.

Yeah but now the roped in new suckers that didn't know they need the product and the price is now 10 per month

Growth hacking. Shake loose more market share with the "FREE!!" version and then the frog boil

Netflix can't do what got them to the top.

They can't grow that way but they could easily hold on and remain profitable, popular and successful.

They were well on their way to enjoying "Kleenex" or "Oreo" stable market success, but their leadership and shareholders apparently aren't satisfied with winning.

That's heartbreaking. Radio Shack was so fun, while it lasted.

It's a shame they went under during the rise of the maker movement. What an asset they could have been. I remember they started carrying arduino near the end and thought somebody must have tried to reach for their roots. Too little, too late.

And eventually they’ll just pull the no ads version altogether.

Imo that's pretty much the only benefit these days. But I'm also waiting for those 1 year, 2 year, etc "deals" where they offer $1/mo off or something

I expect to see this soon as a way of combatting people who join one for a month or two, binge, then switch to another provider.

It might not come in the form of contracts at first, maybe they will just jack up the price of month to month high enough that people will voluntarily buy into a contract or yearly pre-purchase.

Trust me, there is always a way to make more money if you're OK with being anti-consumer. It's just a matter of time.

Didn't some cable companies get all butthurt that you could fast forward through the recorded commercials?

For now. YouTube is already starting to dedicate serious resources to anti ad blocking. I'm sure other streaming services aren't that far behind.

They do keep adding garbage that nobody wants, but the core product still works great. I plan on getting a jellyfin docker running in parallel though so I’m prepared in the event they piss me off too much.

That's why I've been using Emby. Works just fine for free.

switch to jellyfin

.........betamax as a giant? They entered a format war, and died in their first few years of existance.

The others I get. Kodak was around almost 100 years, blockbuster nearly 40, both at one time the dominant leaders of their industries. Both fell to failing to adapt to change.

But betamax? It came out around the same time as vhs, and vhs was cheaper.

Same with 8-tracks and cassettes.

See, now I'm fine with that. I pay for Netflix and I want what I pay for to stay ad-free. Having an ad-supported tier with no fee in addition to that means that there are options for other people without enshittifying my experience.

That's a world of difference to what Amazon have done where they've shoved ads into the service that I thought I was paying for, and then offered to charge me even more to get my original ad-free service back.

If that's all you need, I'd probably just start using Tubi, Pluto, and Plex. Pluto and Plex have some good live channels (Tubi might also, haven't checked). Tubi and Plex have a decent catalogue of on demand shows and movies. Of course if you already have Netflix, it might be hard if there's a specific show they're used to.

Was making a comparison to TiVO and old cable/satellite programming 😂

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