thats crazy

Yeah, but it's hot goss. What are we gonna do, not talk about it?

Got em

Hey just as a heads up degenerate has its roots in eugenics

Or they just use incognito mode

my search history is just for the phone number of this empanada place over and over again I'm sure that will never come back to haunt me

If you see the upcoming civil war as inevitable, then triggering it now would mean the government forces are on our side, and with Trump dead you'd get a bunch of different maga factions the government could sweep up quickly. Now when the civil war begins, Trump will be president, maga will be united behind him, and the government forces will be working FOR them.

You assume I would think you’re wrong. I do not.

Morally, assassination is despicable. But so is fascism.

I applaud you for taking the high road, while I just say Fuck ‘em all. Fascism should not be tolerated, even in a democracy.

I think I agree, but I'd phrase it a bit differently. The problem in our country isn't division, it's that there's an energetic fascist movement that needs to be stopped. The problem with assassinating Trump is that it gives that movement a martyr and would very much energize them (disorganize them too, since they wouldn't know for sure who to follow anymore, but they've never needed to be too organized to do damage and they could do plenty before succession fueled infighting really started to take a toll).

Killing Trump won't kill his ideas, the only way to do that is to embarrass Trump and Trumpism badly, so I think the best series of events would be a) Trump loses the election, b) prosecutors explain Trump's many crimes in meticulous detail to a series of juries who sentence Trump to years and years behind bars, c) Trump dies of a heart attack while taking a shit in prison.

The fact that the voters already did a) once in 2020 and the system's let us down on b) is deeply frustrating and worth acknowledging for the sake of identifying the country's underlying problems (it's the politicians and lawyers more than it is the voters), but it doesn't change the fact that assassinating Trump is the last thing we want to do at this point.

further incite the right, convince them that they are fighting the holy fight, and accelerate violence against the citizenry?

Literally already happening.

How anyone can think that rolling over and playing dead while fascists stomp their way in to (more) power is a better way to "fight" them, than, I don't know, actually fighting them, is honestly mind blowing.

Check your privilege, the fact that you aren't impacted by their ongoing war, doesn't mean no one else is.

I feel like somehow this assessment focuses heavily on speculation and ignores a very key fact in that scenario. Trump would no longer be able to be president. And we don't really know what violence they'd commit exactly. I think it's pretty sure there would be violence... But why are you assuming it would be widespread and against innocent people? And again it's like Trump being gone is not even worth mentioning

It doesn’t require Hitler-level Evil. Just pragmatism.