Fascism is Capitalism in Decay

He’s even proud of it he thinks he’s so amazing and self made for doing that.

The real joke of these elite universities is how education has become an entirely tertiary function. Social networking with rich people and padding your resume matter so much more than attending actual classes.

Elon throwing a continuous kegger for a few years probably was what introduced him to all the children of spooks and bureaucrats and investment bankers necessary to make him into the billionaire he is today.

I like when be bought an obscenely expensive luxury sports car to impress Thiel, and promptly wrecked it.

Because they stop 99% of things like 9/11 from happening.

I'm not saying they're effective, but the FBI is one of the few organizations that can investigate corrupt police forces. How would we address that?

They have specifically given at least one of his companies a lot in subsidies. SpaceX lives off the government teet.

Edit: People in this thread don't seem to realize that specifically over paying for something is itself a subsidy. SpaceX has been overcharging for DoD contracts, missing deadlines, and running cost overages for years now. They've also been given contracts where other competitors weren't even considered.

Why does this bot have 45 upvotes?

You can buy, but you can't get them

Very close. To me, the "free market" has never and could never exist. Its human nature to tip the scales in your own favour, be it through bribery or coercion.

The idea of a meritocratic market thats free of interference is capitalist-utopianism.

This can’t be true if Stalinism and Khmer Rouge are kinds of fascism, which they are generally agreed to be.

I'm not sure i see the link youre making here. Could you expand on that please?

Capitalism is (financial) might makes right, with the appearance of chacks and balances. All of which have been utterly compromised and perverted by capitalism.

History shows us that fascism is simply capitalism when you try to say no. There was 1900s capitalism. Then, there was a movement trying to say no to the workhouses, debtors prisons and wealth theft. In direct response to this, fascism arose to protect the assets of the wealthy from the people trying to say no to capitalism. You can see it in America where striking workers were gunned down by police, as one example there. In the UK too, where the Royal Hussars cavalry were set on protesting workers. So, where I say that, I mean it in a very literal way.

Most people just don't see it, as very few of us are even able to say no much less actual say it too. That doesn't make it any less true though.

And what amounts to a phone bill to him could change hundreds of thousands of people's lives for the better. But "Muh taxes..."

And is erased from history for fucking with the money. 'Murica.

I'd say you're right, not sure what that guy is talking about.

Excessive regulation in such areas as emission requirements could be seen as a defacto mandate.

I never saw Musk as the guy that wanted to make a bunch of money because the regulatory environment forced you to buy his cars. But rather create a competitive product people will like and let that move the needle.

He’s dumb. He just has a lot of money.

This is a fairly infamous troll account. Everything they post is demonstrably untrue and commonly inflammatory.

I think you really need to ask yourself why you’re willing to either lie or be so easily manipulated

Totally unnecessary. You're comparing a publicly traded company running on memes and a strange cult of personality to private valuation.

Now that China and other domestic competitors have ramped up EV production Tesla's dominance of the niche is going to fall, especially considering the flop that was the Cybertruck and the brand damage Elon has committed.

We are already seeing protectionist measures being enacted for the EV sector.

In short, SpaceX and Starlink have a market to dominate (whether we want it to or not, it seems) while Tesla, a grossly overvalued company, is only going to see more competition and deepened irrelevancy.

I'd argue Tesla is overvalued and starting to face though competition on the EV front. SpaceX doesn't have that problem.

SpaceX and Starlink are not publically traded so you can't really compare their value.

I think it's the drugs. He used to be at least somewhat sensible. In recent years he's just been acting totally bonkers. But having unchecked power will do that to you too, of course.

Would it help at all if he could shift the blame onto government policy?

I don’t pay much attention to things I can’t afford, but I remember reading a short conspiracy theory that Musk would absolutely love it if someone were to turn the market against EVs/Tesla, because he needs/wants Tesla to fail by excuse of “government” and not because he’s running into the ground. Exhibit A: AI Self Driving Exhibit C: Cybertruck.

Looks better on his resume that way? Gotta preserve that image to preserve that income.