Privacy @lemmy.ml umami_wasabi @lemmy.ml 4mo ago

Customs agents need a warrant to search your phone now

www.theverge.com Customs agents need a warrant to search your phone now

This ruling only applies to one specific region.

tl;dr: only applies to NY Eastern District, and likely only US citizen can enjoy

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Always turn your phone off before crossing international borders. And use a >20 char boot passphrase.
- You don’t have rights when crossing a border. If you’re not willing to have customs rooting through your data, delete it and restore from backup after you arrive.
  
  The problem is that this also applies within a radius around a “port of entry”. So everybody that lives within about 100 miles of the coast, an airport, or a rail line that crosses a border — which is probably about 80+% of any country.
  
  If we're talking about US citizens entering the US, AFAIK they have no right to deny you entry.
  
  Oh, you definitely have rights when crossing many borders. But, of course, it depends on the border.
- They can still ask you to trun on and have it unlocked. Refuse and you being an international traveller? They probably will deny your entry.
  
  In the very unlikely instance that happens, fly to the nearest country, make a backup of your phone, factory reset it, then fly back to a different poet of entry
  
  Don't refuse... Just casually forget
- They will detain you. I know the US procedure because i was instructed as i worked there as a representative for an overseas company in Europe.
  
  If you're a national of the US they will detain you and hold you in detention to ask you questions. During this time your phone will either be cloned or confiscated to be decrypted at a later date. You will be released after a few hours. They will likely not bruteforce it, but rather attempt to use security flaws present in your device/firmware. They will do the same to your laptop.
  
  If you're not a national of the US, you will be denied entry and flown back to where you came from. This is common practice in a lot of western countries.
  
  What you should do is not carry sensitive information across borders, by using a cloud service to sync at your destination or use hidden encrypted containers in your device. Unless you're involved in terrorism, white collar crime, CSAM or drugs, they will never have people smart enough to find out hidden containers on you.
  
  Even if my phone is empty, I'm not going to give them a password out of principle. And I'm not saying anything in detention. No questions will be answered.
  
  Again if I really need to get into the country, then I'll try again at a different port of entry. Usually land crossings are easier.
  
  Running CalyxOS, I'd like to see them try and crack my phone from a powered off state.
- aren't they going to ask you to unlock it, or do as they do in China and run a quick scan using their special software?
  
  Australia also
  
  or do as they do in China and run a quick scan using their special software?
  
  Can I get a source for this?
  
  They can ask. And you can say no. Some countries might torture you, but that's honestly low risk. And for that we have duress passwords.
  
  Special scanning software can't defeat strong encryption with a strong passphrase
Hey that’s a good improvement
Always should have needed one.
Fucking finally!
And only for now until it inevitably gets appealed.
- Oh for sure. They will appeal, apply for "stay of execution" to suspend the judgement claiming this will degrade its operation capability and contray to public interest, and drag this into a legal battle until they win.
So they were able to search your phone on a whim before this change? And still can everywhere except JFK where this new ruling now applies? That’s how I understand it according to the article. “Land of the free” indeed.

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