Fediverse @lemmy.world sag @lemm.ee 1mo ago

So I get banned from lemmy.ml What now?

Yesterday, I created my account on Lemmy.ml because I want to become mod on !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml. And I posted this comic on !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml It's SDV game cutscene where Shane a NPC go watch Sports game with you kiss you accidentily but It was part of that event also player kiss Shane(NPC) back. Here's video for more context. And someone claimed it have SA(Sexual Assualt) From Hexbear Ofcourse. So, I should delete it. I said it was a part of game cutscene. And If main player doesn't love the Shane(NPC) then they don't need to complete this event. And Just as a sarcasm I added Yeah we shoule delete this entire community because this game is Woke like Woke Detector Steam Group said. That user think I am some anti-woke dickhead something like that IDK. And tell me to Kill My Self. What I do now? I wanted on become mod on .ml because community was already well established. I message dessaline but I am sure he will not unbanned me. :(

Did I really did something wrong? I don't know If I really did something wrong.

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Created one one lemm.ee !stardewvalley@lemm.ee

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Make your own community on an instance that's not full of assholes
- Done !stardewvalley@lemm.ee
  
  Nice, did you subscribe to it from the largest instances so that it's more visible? If not I can help with that.
  
  Welcome!
  
  Welcome!
  
  How do you make a community?
- Why is lemmy.ml full of assholes? Wasn't that one of the original lemmy instances? Genuinely asking
  
  As far as I know it was started by the original lemmy developers which made the software because they felt persecuted for their beliefs on normie social media. Lemmy just happened to be around when the reddit CEO decided to f up reddit so everyone started using it despite the creators not being well adjusted people.
  
  Edit: just so I'm not misinforming here's what they said themselves about the origin https://lemmy.ml/post/70319
  
  I don't get how extremist leftist content ends up attracting people who are against woke stuff in stardew really but over time I've gotten the vibe the ml and hexbear people are in general more combative and angry about things.
  
  It was created by the Lemmy developers and is one of the original Lemmy instances. And while Lemmy itself is fantastic, unfortunately the developers are not. They are tankies, extreme authoritarian communists.
  
  Other than their other instances lemmygrad and Hexbear, lemmy.ml tries to look more moderate and has many active and great communities. But if you post things they dislike, you might run into similar troubles like OP.
  
  Lemmy was created by and for assholes, but a few other people have found it too.
  
  It's because if you aren't participating in the groupthink delusions you will be banned by extremely fragile mods. So people who aren't assholes tend to leave.
  
  It's the original instance, run by the main Lemmy creators.
  
  https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
  
  It was, but it has communists on it, which is annoying to most large instance owners. So much that they don't even federate with it.
Lemmy.ml is doomed. You were unlucky to pick the wrong instance. It's one of the downside of federated Lemmy that .ml is the oldest instance, leading to many cool communities being hosted there. The only way is to start that community on another instance that is not .ml or .world and staying patient.

Hexbear and lemnygrad are not even a choice.
- Seriously. When I learned that the "ml" stood for Marxism-Leninism I almost had second thoughts about leaving the R-site.
  
  The ml TLD belongs to Mali BTW. A semi-failed African state which just kicked out the "imperialist" French soldiers it had previously invited to put down its jihadist insurgents, in order to replace them with Russian mercenaries generously sent by Putin. You can't make this stuff up.
  
  The community is a very weird mix of Anti-Imperialists, communists and islamists.
  They are not openly Russia-friendly, but they are very uncritical towards authoritarian systems. From pro-palestine over pro Hamas to pro Iran, and then you are almost there.
  
  I sometimes wonder if it is just the US-american left going insane these days or if some corners of Lemmy are under the influence of Russian and Chinese troll factories.
  
  Didn't Mali order a recall of all ml domains a while back due to an incident where military emails being sent to .mil were accidentally sent to .ml domains instead.
Probably more fit for !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com , not sure this post will stay here
- I think it's largely fine for this community but a crosspost to that community would also be a good idea.
  
  CC: @sag@lemm.ee
  
  OK
  
  The mod could argue that this discussion isn't beneficial to the wide audience of this community (and that would be understandable), so better safe than sorry
Give yourself a high five (ok, fine, I guess that's just clapping, whatever) and move to a better instance!
Join lemm.ee and ignore lemmy.ml
Doesn't seem to me like you did anything serious enough to be banned from a whole platform, but moderators and administrators are individuals and some of them can't be objective when something presses their person hot buttons. If a right-wing Christian claimed abortion was Sexual Assault, that obviously would not automatically make abortion an off-limits topic, but I can imagine a moderator thinking differently. I agree with your response that nobody was being forced into anything, but using loaded words like "woke" is a good way to get yourself labeled by someone who thinks in memes.
- a good way to get yourself labeled by someone who thinks in memes.
  
  What an effective way to put it.
  
  Thanks, "thinking in memes" is my shorthand for the superficial mentality of feeling like an expert based on minimal info. It's the inverse of imposter syndrome.
Your post made me move to lemm.ee. You can export your communities from lemmy.ml to a new instance off your choosing using the included tool on the web version off them.
Your community doesn't need to be isolated to a single instance. Your home instance, lemm.ee, can be used as one.
- *your
  
  Edited lol, thanks.
- Exactly. I avoid lemmy.ml specifically because the admins there are the same ones who run the commonly defederated lemmygrad.ml - so the instance isn't particularly friendly.
  
  Vote with your feet and move the community to a better instance, and hopefully some volunteer will message the old one detailing the move.
  
  .ml doesn't have a civility problem lol. Censorship problem? Sure. Not a civility one. When I made my comment I was thinking of some .world communities.
Just stick .ml with hexbear and grad on your blocklist and move on.
What do I do now? Sorry If this was not right community to post this. Bye Tommorow is my exam. I hope I don't fuck it up because of this.
- Take a deep breath, make yourself a cup of tea and go through your notes for the exam. Ace the exam!
  Then think about which lemmy server you want to start your new stardew valley community on and what your community rules should be.
  
  Thanks, It went all right.
- Good luck with the exam!
Be happy that you lost nothing and gained less toxicity in your life, at best you make a account on a instance that either doesn't federate the .ml instances or one that is blocked by them (like mine) there is a pretty active gaming community on sh.itjust.works, and you can make your own community if you want to.
I don't know anything about ml specifically, and I refuse to learn because I don't give a shit. Lemmy has pockets of crazy like any place. Do your thing, get banned if you get banned, end up where you end up.

I joined the new stardew valley thing you made.
I have no advice for you but as someone relatively new to lemmy I'm trying to understand all this drama. It seems like hexbear is leftist which I thought was cool (full disclosure tho I've not checked it out at all), but this just seems... really extreme. That joke comment reply probably wasn't the best thing to say but it's crazy to me that you didn't even get any dialouge opened up or anything, just an outright ban? And it seems like the person who reported it had no frame of reference for Stardew. Sorry this happened :< Seems kind of knee-jerk on their behalf. I hope you can open a dialogue, clear things up and get your account back <3
- I think hexbear started from chapotraphouse refugees when it got banned from Reddit. So it’s leftist but with the toxic culture from that.
  
  I'm not myself familiar with that subreddit but that's interesting.
- Basically all of Lemmy is vaguely leftist. Ml and HexBear are tankie instances. Db0 or slrpnk are more anarchist.
- Here is the thread: https://hexbear.net/post/3706906 .
If you're gonna post about me at least tag me coward.

Here's the thread for context. https://hexbear.net/post/3706906

And someone claimed it have SA(Sexual Assualt) From Hexbear Ofcourse.

Here's my claim boiled down:

Shane’s reaction betrays he acted without establishing consent, aka committed SA. There is no other reason for him to feel guilty and make excuses other than trying to soften any backlash his action might’ve caused. Even if there was explicit consent along the lines of “hold me tight and kiss me” he is unaware of it and decided to act regardless. Nothing can excuse this. This is textbook SA.

The framing of the comic makes an act of SA look cute and romantic.

You have posted a comic romanticizing r*pe.

When pointed out that this causes harm to real-life people you still tried to defend it and decided to do nothing to mitigate the harm to these people.

You were unable to say why it was ok to leave a post up despite it being able to cause harm to people with PTSD.

You kept enganging in disgusting SA apologetics "oh he's just a depressed alcoholic", "oh but she wanted it", "oh but why does she kiss him back"

I did not ask you to or insinuate that you should kill yourself. Complete lie.

My bad on not reading the "this game is woke lol" comment as sarcastic.
- Weird that you would link to a thread where you tell somebody "I hope you die soon" as if it somehow defends your position. Not only are you trivializing actual rape with this smoothbrained take, but you're being a bully to OP for absolutely no reason. You're not the good guy here.
  
  nah fuck off, these kinds of posts do trigger SA related trauma and keeping them up after it has been pointed out how they cause harm is risking harm to others because ?? don't even know why OP was so adamant about defending this tbh
- If you call that rape, you need therapy and medication and have no business being in any position of authority. Disgusting. That whole thread is sad and disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself for the damage you do to real sexual assault survivors by trivializing their experience.
- I did not ask you to or insinuate that you should kill yourself. Complete lie.
  
  You stated multiple times that you wanted to shoot him because he used the excuse that "it's just a game". That's a thin distinction at best.
  
  You also use a separate account for your normal posting than your admin account, which feels needlessly sneaky.
  
  Look, taking down the post was right call, and removing him from the mod position for arguing about it too. But the rest of this?
  
  Telling someone that you want to injure them, then going on a multiple paragraph rant that is more about dunking on someone and venting than actually trying to inform isn't a good look for an admin.
  
  I can't read their full responses that you deleted, but what you quoted from them reads like the kind of scared "stop yelling at me I don't understand what I did wrong please don't hit me" responses I gave to my mother while she was busy giving me reasons for therapy.
  
  Normal users can get away with this sort of aggressive behavior because they don't have a position of power, but you do. You are inherently setting the example of what you want from your users and it's not a good look from the outside.
  
  Now let's see if this criticism gets me banned too... hope not.
  
  I'm not an admin of any instance don't know why you think I am.
  
  You stated multiple times that you wanted to shoot him because he used the excuse that "it's just a game".
  
  And that was just a comment.
  
  going on a multiple paragraph rant that is more about dunking on someone and venting than actually trying to inform isn't a good look for an admin.
  
  I wasn't dunking on him but trying to explain my viewpoints to him. I didn't make fun of him, I wasn't sarcastic or smug, I stated my opinion. Rather plainly and bluntly but there was no dunking involved.
  
  I can't read their full responses that you deleted, but what you quoted from them reads like the kind of scared "stop yelling at me I don't understand what I did wrong please don't hit me" responses I gave to my mother while she was busy giving me reasons for therapy.
  
  The quotes are pretty much entirely what was written. Which was SA apologia. My comments are nothing but trying to explain what was wrong. Also I didn't delete anything. I'm neither a mod nor an admin. I am just a normal user.
- I don't care about anything else. But..
  
  oh he's just a depressed alcoholic
  
  I was just telling about his personallity.
  
  I don't know much about that game and I cannot speak for rape victims and their feelings of a comic strip but two repeated calls for your death over there with further excuses here are way over the line of a heated argument, so that person is now permabanned from here.
  
  Dude you do not need to defend or justify yourself to this person, the best thing to do is just ignore them, or report them as harassment and a troll. Seriously it's best to just not respond to these types of people, responding only makes them feel more justified.
- I don't know why you feel entitled to be tagged by him or feel entitled to justification from him but you aren't. You made repeated death threats towards him. Most people would've just blocked you for that, which I admit is not a great solution since it makes you invisible to them, and therefore less likely to be reported for something like this.
Your obsession over lemmy sounds unhealthy. You made an account to become mod of a sub you don’t know how works???
- That community mod was offline. I just want to see that community active. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- My take on this as well... like who does that 🤨...

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