Anti-Trump protests erupt across US from New York City to Seattle

The "wokes" part is the sarcasm, the sentiment is real. They turned up in washington with a gallows, they might not have had the iron clad conviction to follow through. HOWEVER I guarantee you the security this Jan 6 will be so fucking airtight that to try a reverse of last time will be suicide. Even if people opposed to Trump did turn up en-masse and with a plan.

They exposed the weakness, they arent dumb enough to leave that door open.

I don’t think you fully grasp the dynamics, but from an outside perspective I’m sure it’s difficult to truly appreciate.

The DNC must be held responsible, because the establishment politicians completely control the narrative. And, except for the ridiculously stacked Covid election in 2020, they have lost 3 times in a row. If dem leadership is never held accountable for their mistakes leading to election losses, then they will never be able to right the ship and gain any real power or momentum. They are not owed our votes - they must effectively campaign to win them. That’s politics.

Unfortunately, as Nancy Pelosi is so fond of saying, Dems prefer to “lean to the green.” They chase corporate donations above all else, and garner voter apathy and disdain as a result. America has nobody (save Bernie Sanders) who fights for the working class now. Unfortunately, Trump at least has the political wherewithal to pretend to be a populist, and says things that trick people into voting for him. The Dems can’t even do that. Trump lost votes compared to last time because he’s a criminal fascist buffoon, to the tune of over 2 million votes. Harris lost many more, over 10 million compared to 2020, because she abandoned the working class and refused to even do so much as call Israelis genocidal. Hell, she was a straight up war hawk in her dem convention speech - dems are supposed to be the anti war party!

So yeah, it’s wrong to blame the voters, the fault lies squarely with Dem leadership if for anything else because they have all the power. Dem voters are sick of getting screwed for over 40 years now, and many repug voters simply want to burn it all down. This is the end result of total corporate capture of government and late stage capitalism, massive problems which far transcend individual voters who may or may not be faced with apathy over a brutal system which consistently fails them.

A protest has two functions:

I agree with what you said in this block.

No, the half of your country that is fine with fascism is too blame.

*Also to blame.

A week ago, Harris was hailed like the second coming of Christ and now the cause of the fall of USA into Fascism.

Not by all of us. I didn't want her in 2020, either. She's a glorified cop. Example: as a DA, how many people did she imprison for marijuana charges? But then she ran on legalization? I know there's more to this and nuance is everything, but that hypocrisy is and example.

Stating it now gets our anger pointed at the people responsible for our loss so that next time, they don't repeat the mistakes of 2016, almost 2020, and now 2024.

We need reform if we're going to maintain a two-party system.

Respectfully, now is exactly the time for introspection. And even blame. It's over, there's nothing at stake. Like Bernie, I disagreed with Harris on some things, but I thought she was an overall great candidate running a difficult campaign in an unfairly short window. So I fell in line. I talked to people (gross), I donated, I voted.

There's plenty of blame to go around. The Harris/Democratic Party/Biden aren't perfect, but voters still had a chance to stop Trump & Project 2025 and we failed miserably. So no, I don't think it's infighting to admit this shit isn't working...

And how exactly do we save democracy? By overthrowing the Democratic process because we do not like the outcome? Remember that this is the first time in the past 30 years a Republican president did not only won the election, but the popular vote as well.

There is no way to save democracy now.

There were a lot of warning signs that Harris wasn't doing so well. Democrats just didn't want to admit it out of fear that would discourage people to vote for her.

Absolutely not. Plenty of people, a hell of a lot of people, were very bothered by that shenanigan. It turns out that shouting people down instead of listening to them doesn't win popularity contests.

A lot of us have been quite vocal about that failing for over a year now. Say what you like but if you’re implying Trump was the only one upset about that you’re dead wrong.

That's absolutely not true. I was angry not to have a choice from the start.

Then, due to some bullshit rules, there wasn't even an open candidacy vote at the convention.

Get mad and indignant all you want, but we had no choice this election. It was Biden or Harris. Nothing else was close to viable.

Except the DNC chooses the candidate. HRC bought her way into the candidacy by paying off the debt of the DNC in 2016 with the help of Donna Brasil and Debbie Wasserman Schultz supplanting the movement toward a true populist, Bernie.

Again, in 2020, the DNC encouraged everyone to drop out, including Kamala, to support Biden over Bernie, because the DNC will never get behind a true Progressive.

Never underestimate the DNC's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

You can't disprove a negative.

I was using it as slander, not literally. They might as well be yokels for being so blind or misled to the snake oil they were peddled.

I am a Latino male, FYI. Cuban heritage. I cannot grasp why so many Latino males voted for them. As I told my family, as far as the GOP are concerned 🇵🇷 == 🇨🇺. We are "the help." "Less than," as it were.

Fuck the GOP.