Imagine

All corporations. All corporations will not be happy until ownership is a concept of the past. You are borrowing the company's resources and paying them for the service.

If you don't like it, stop heralding capitalism as the be-all of economic systems...

This is Lemmy, you don’t have to convince people not to like capitalism here, we’re already on board
- We already have a noose set up for the first instance that gets greedy.
- Define ‘we’. Not all of us are communists.
It's ironic, isn't it. With the most common "criticism" of communism being that nobody will be able to have any personal belongings..
- As far as i know, communists want to share means of production (usually land and machines, anything you need to work other than your brain). That means you may have your own printer and car, as long as you pay for it with a well distributed salary.
- Eventually people will realize that there is no real difference between communism and capitalism, because both systems always end up with fascists in charge.
Will that really work in long term? More and more folks are entering gig economy where incomes aren't consistently stable and people have already started to subscribe for minimum time just to consume relevant content. Are they really banking on whales forgetting to unsubscribe?
- You're on Lemmy. Someone is going to mention unions within seconds.
- No they aren't. One thing people need to learn is; executives are some of the dumbest people on this planet. Short term profits far too often wins over logical long term projections.
  
  If they were smart, enshitification wouldn't be reality.
living as a service
If you don't like it, stop heralding capitalism as the be-all of economic systems...

Settle down. You're on Lemmy, know your audience.
- The irony...

"I'm sorry Dave, I can't leave the driveway, I'm out of Magenta."

Man, I wish I were this clever. 🏅

plot twist: It's a Brother monochrome laser printer.

The equivalent of an old brother mono laser would be a Lada or a Toyota hilux. It may not be pretty, but it's simple and it will run forever.

We got rid of the old hl2030 in favor of a fancy color printer/scanner. Now we have neither.
- We got rid of the old hl2030 in favor of a fancy color printer/scanner. Now we have neither.
  
  Your words cut deep.
- Agreed entirely. I'm a big evangelist for Brother's business class black and white laser printers. I bought my hl2050 twenty years ago and I've only had to replace the toner once. It just works.
- We got rid of the old hl2030
  
  you monster! I love mine and I'll never part with it
- Also maybe one of those OG land rovers Queen Elizabeth used to drive
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- Yep, got tired of inkjet printers running out, clogging, print heads gumming up, just failing in so many different ways. I've had my laser printer for about 5 years and it's still rolling on the sample toner cart. Granted, I don't print all that often, but that's another reason I like this printer so damn much.
- Can vouch for Brother. My parents kept buying inkjet printers every few years, the last one was a more expensive HP one but they were always a constant source of complaint. Bought them a Brother a few years ago, they literally didn't have a single issue with it since.
I bought a brother printer / copier / scanner about 15 years ago. Still going strong, I replaced the ink once.

I bought it for $99.99

I still consider it the best money I've ever spent

Edit: $99 Canadian!
- They are also indestructible. The brother monochrome that I have for my business is about 16 years old, last year a huge rock got thrown through our window and knocked it off the counter. Snapped the scanner cover back on, works like new.
Best printers.

I just bought one. Works instantly out of the box. One click "install" on Windows/Android/MacOS/Linux, and doesn't require any of their bullshit software.

Setup on Windows is as easy as going to

Printers & Scanners > Add device > Brother

Done.

Now I can print/scan/copy and my computer has no bloatware on it. It's wonderful.

Pc load letter?

What the fuck does that even mean?

Uh uh sounds like someone's got a case of the muundays
- No. No man, shit no man, i believe youd get your ass kicked saying something like that man
The phrase “PC load letter” is a printer error message on some mostly obsolete types of HP laserjet printers. Here, “PC” stands for “paper cassette” and the error indicates that no letter-sized paper is available for a print job with a letter size.

And an HP printer at that.

A firmware update recently bricked a ton of HP 9020 printers worldwide including mine. It was so bad they had to send me a brand new one after I called support.

My next EV Van: Mercedes Printer

Maybe Toyota will start electrifying old classics like the Printer Trueno or the (dot)Matrix.
- 2025 Ford Epson
  
  0 emissions, goes anywhere the white lines have bumps that fit little hole strip on the running boards.
- AE86Kw

To be fair, the amount of false positive safety alerts and phantom breaking events dropped considerably last 6m.

But I can't reconcile the fact they turned off the bumper sensors making autopilot jerkier, and forcing it to keep a much wider distance from other cars.

I won’t buy a car without ultra sonic sensors. They stop you bashing into things that you, or the cameras, can’t see.
- I know of multiple people who've backed into poles that went right down the middle between two of them while they were too busy watching the screen.
  
  A very useful and welcome addition, but not something to be wholly relied on as a replacement for paying attention.
- I have had my ultrasonic sensors disabled since the first week. If you have a proper set of cameras, you don't need them and the incessant beeping is incredibly annoying.
  
  Sometimes less tech is better.
"To be fair, (two paragraphs of printer-speak)"

Our prophet has arrived. I bow.

Admittedly a scathing burn, but in my experience not at all the same. I have had so many printers with connection issues, overpriced ink that dries up, and constant mechanical jams that I’ve sworn off ever owning a printer again and made my department paperless. But all I had to do for my Tesla is connect it to wifi, and every few weeks a no-hassle software update delivers some useful new features. I’ve never met a printer that improved with time.

I don't understand the Tesla hate. I think people have read bad headlines and assumed they were true. I've had mine for 2.5 years and still haven't even had to do more than put in washer fluid and charge at home. I would hate having to go back to oil changes and gas stations.
- I hate Teslas because the owner is the company is a Nazi. I also think having a giant phone in the middle of the car is a bad idea, but it's mostly the Nazi thing.
- How about the shit quality control (another ref) for starters, not to mention the broken promises (approaching false advertisement at this point). Oh and don't forget the battery fires (oh, but don't worry!! Phony Stark told us that only 0.01% of teslas have ever caught fire. Only 200+ times using goodcarbadcar, phew!!! )
  
  Your singular anecdote about having no issues is certainly indicative of the actual situation, yep must just be bad headlines
- Having a Tesla is one of the most liberating experiences. I don't have to go to gas stations, I don't sit in lines at the gas station, I don't even have to turn the car off. I get to where I'm going stop the car. Get out walk away without doing anything at all. I didn't put it in park. I didn't turn it off. I just opened the door, walked out and closed the door and the car did the rest for me. On a hot summer day and I'm coming back out with a bunch of frozen groceries. I tell the car to go ahead and be cold inside before I get there.
  
  Sure. The owner of Tesla is a giant jerk but that doesn't change any of the benefits. The full self-driving feature is absolute garbage. Don't trust it. Don't buy it. But in terms of a car being a good car, it's a great car. The center of gravity is practically in the road. It's a very difficult car to flip. It's structurally very sound. If it catches fire, that's a super bad time. Mine is all-wheel drive so it's super zippy from a light, corners really well, and is a lot quieter than other vehicles I've had. To be fair, those other vehicles were loud sports cars, but the point remains.
  
  Is the car perfect?? No. Is the owner an a sshole? Yes. Well worth every penny, and the operating costs per mile are multiples better than the other vehicles I own.
- Most of it is Elon hate, not actually Tesla hate.
- Personally, I prefer cars not built by racists.
- I think the problem is not the cool features, it's the modern "subscriber model" way they're sold to you. People don't hate printers because they've got all the bells and whistles, they hate them because they're expensive items which the manufacturers treat as if you're renting from them.
- Just about any brand new car is going to go 2+ years without needing any form maintenance other than wear-and-tear items. Not sure how you think owning a brand new vehicle and it not needing major repair implies good quality.
- The panel gaps are so big you can lose a child in them.
  
  The vehicles were never designed to be driven outside California, as the trunk dumps all the snow into the trunk when it opens (EDIT: nvm, it also dumps all the rain also.), instead of in drainage channels, and the pop out handles freeze making it impossible to open your vehicle from the outside.
  
  That's all before we even talk about driving one, the software issues, or the insane CEO.
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Agreed it's nothing like owning a printer. You don't need to pay for the premium connectivity you can just use Bluetooth on your phone like any OTHER car. Full self driving subscription? Optional. Or you could buy the full thing out right.

Now here is where it gets like a printer. If you can't afford the monthly payment so you lease endlessly and never own the car. Tesla makes leaving very easy and tries very hard to incentive you to renew your lease. BUT again this is the same with any other car. Just don't lease.
- Does Tesla still do the thing where every car is outfitted with all the cameras/sensors, and if you DONT buy the self driving when you purchase it, they are disabled and can never be enabled again after the fact?
  
  Meaning they spend all the money putting these cameras/sensors in the car, but completely make them useless if you don't drop the cash on purchase day? and if you resell it, there's no option for the new owner to enable them?

This can describe a majority of consumer appliances these days.

Not saying Tesla build quality isn't shit, but it's not exactly a very specific insult.

So, Wi-Fi problems?

Brings a whole new element to PC Load Letter

Your work truck is an HP plotter

My compact cargo van is an airbrush strapped to a Roomba.

ROASTED!

On the printer conversations: If you don't have a ton of space in your home, but you get out often, some libraries offer printing services - if you can bring documents on a thumb drive, it's a nice way to do it if you don't print too often.

I would argue all cars are like printers (gas=ink, only get good service/reliabilty with expensive ones,etc) it's just that Tesla is doing all the anti-consumer bullshit the worst printer companies are doing atm

They both have an annoying but somewhat common issue of things getting jammed up causing progress to halt.

The Tesla hate is so intense lol. I don't like Citroën. Yet I spend zero minutes in a year in forum threads or in the comment sections of newspapers talking shit about them. A lot of people like their Teslas and a lot of other people are like "Nooo, not allowed you are wrong and dumb an Elon is nazi" :D

Haters gonna hate. Enjoy wasting your time haha.

It's almost like the owner of Tesla, the richest man in the world with a powerful social media platform, spends a lot of time cuddling up to Nazis and conspiracy theorists, tainting his car company or something, isn't it?
- Ford and GM were literally Nazi collaborators, but I guess that was long enough ago no one cares

Like the coolest and best printer ever...? Like the Brother printer of the car world?