No Stupid Questions @lemmy.world Crackhappy @lemmy.world 5d ago

I am a very liberal person and I have very liberal children, except for one. I'm pretty sure my Gen Z son has been taken in by fascist doctrine. What can I get him for Christmas?

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By “fascist” you mean “supports ethnic cleansing”, or “doesn’t agree with me on every single political issue”?
- Which political issue do you get called fascist for?
  
  On Lemmy, using a word or tone somebody doesn't like is enough
  
  I'm sorry you've been exposed to that. I oddly haven't. Maybe it's the words I'm picking. Maybe it's the thoughts behind those words.
  
  I guess without actual examples we'll never know.
  
  https://lemmy.world/comment/13627379
  
  There's an example for you, two comments down someone accused him of being a fascist for this conversation with absolutely no evidence to show he supports ethnic cleansing but plenty to show he simply disagrees with the person calling him a fascist (on what constitutes a fascist, if nothing else.)
  
  I don't know how to check the mod log. Maybe that guy did? No idea
  
  Fair enough, I can't either from my app, but if that's the case it would have been worth mentioning. As it stands it appears he's simply assumed to be a fascist for the crime of questioning whether a third person labeling a fourth person as fascist has a basis for their accusation. And until I see a screenshot of sunzu2 saying he does support ethnic cleansing, all I can do is work with what evidence I've seen.
  
  Hah! Possibly. It's very fascist to not label others fascist for no reason. I think that's the fifteenth tenet of fascism.
  
  Lol well tbf that was exactly Sunzu2's original point, me questioning Steve on why he calls Bob a fascist isn't a tenet of fascism, which is why when Steve asserts that since I didn't automatically believe him I must too be a fascist working with Bob, it devalues the word. Now I'm wondering if Steve first accused Bob because Steve had also previously accused Jane of being a fascist and Bob did the same thing I just did in questioning Steve's intel, and Steve is assuredly about to tell Paul that I'm a fascist as well since Steve's really just an ill-informed gossip like Old Mother Rose in the first church pew.
  
  Now, if Bob said "I think we should kill X ethnic group," that'd be valuable information to include in your initial accusation of Bob as evidence to support that he's a fascist, if I then upon receiving that evidence say "well that's not so bad," then Steve could accuse me of being one too, but simply asking for that evidence a fascist does not make.
  
  i don't really care esp since modlog is public unlike reddit and fedi is federated
  
  Found the fascist.
  
  found an idiot
  
  Is the idiot in the room with you now?
  
  Maybe don't say the N word in a derogatory tone then.
  
  Drag recognises you didn't specify which word you used. And in drag's book, that means everyone is free to wildly speculate.
  
  ?
- Its sad as fuck that this needs to be asked. The word facist used to mean something.

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