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I ended up paying for it because, frankly, expecting Youtube to be completely free and fighting how it could be paid for is kinda crazy. We’re just used to it being free but running Youtube is expensive. I watch hours of Youtube nearly every day and don’t use Crunchyroll nearly as much so why am I ok paying for that but not Youtube?
Yes, if they do actually start pushing ads then I’m going to wonder what the hell I’m paying for but for the time being I’m ok with paying for a service. I only started paying for it recently, to be fair, but I get it.
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If you want YouTube to keep existing, you should pay for it. That's why I use adblocker.
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So you don't want a free place to upload videos? .. why? Is it just because it's Google or too big or why?
I love the idea of a free place to upload videos, I just wish there was a way without as many ads or with a cheaper ad free prem.
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So you don’t want it to keep existing(use of ad blocker because you don’t pay for it) but still use it because you…don’t like it? There’s always Nebula if you want to make a point, but not if your point is that you’re an entitled little weirdo.
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I use nebula and a handful of other platforms. But of course most creators are exclusively available on YouTube.
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Ok so you use Youtube and just think it should be free because…?
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I want youtube to fail. I want content creators to move on to other platforms.
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It depends how many hours per month you use it I guess.
I am fine paying for Netflix (it is quite cheap here as well) which I watch probably at least 20-30 hours per month but not for youtube which I use for the music maybe an hour per week or less.
YouTube frequency of commercials is unacceptable. If they were to play a commercial every half an hour or so, I would say it is too often but I would understand it.
They don't, they try to play a commercial every other song start, so every 7-10 minutes. They are taking a piss.
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At the end of the day, Google is just going to double dip and take your money, and still sell your data.
They are, first and foremost, an ad company. Their money maker is the data they get from you; your viewing habits and whatever they can scrape from your computer.
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edit: for context, I have 7000 hours of uninterrupted streaming on YouTube. It's been well worth the cost to me. But this is with the model being ad-free. If that ever changed I would need to re-evaluate my position, but I do like that my subscription can give support to creators (support which is larger per view than that of an ad user) at the same time.
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A great many hours.
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Is it your use of YouTube?
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Premium, yeah
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That's precisely what I meant. For so many hours it may as well be worth it. Not for an occasional user.
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Yeah, I wasn't trying to be rude though I get that the pic without context came off pretty odd. I was just trying to illustrate to others how it would actually be worth not having ads blasted in your face for 7000 hours.
If premium turns ad-supported I will re-evaluate my decision, of course.
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I was just trying to illustrate to others how it would actually be worth not having ads blasted in your face
Yes, 100%. It is all matter of the context. If I was using YouTube at least the same number of hours as netflix (at least - as YouTube does not create anything themselves) I would definitely consider it. Or if the price was much, much lower than netflix.
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Another part of the equation for me is that the creators get a larger piece of the cash pie. YouTube still gets their cut from the premium membership, just as it does with ads. But the piece that otherwise goes to the the ad budget goes to the creator instead.
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Have you tried vi music? Free on fdroid,open source,and its YouTube music ad free. Its quite nice.
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I don’t get any commercials now and I use it for all kinds of stuff from educational videos to hours and hours of things like D&D streams. It’s all worth it.
You pay nothing for it and complain about commercials. I don’t want to go shilling for corporations but whining about Youtube paying the bills is just sad, bud.
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Read again. Slowly.
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You responded to my comment about being ok with paying to not get ads by saying that one ad every thirty minutes would be too much for this service you just expect to get for free. It’s not a necessary utility, deal with it.
No amount of reading comprehension on my end will make up for the lack of it on yours.
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You read it. Now try to understand what you read.
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Yikes.
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Give an inch, they take a mile
Instead of trying to make money, they should be looking at how to operate without it
Peertube is an example of figuring this out
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How to operate without money? Hosting countless hours of high-quality video on demand and streaming it to your computer at highspeed? Are you high?
I had never heard of Peertube before your comment and it sounds great! It also puts a lot on the content creator, though, and regardless of whether Youtube should follow that model or not how would you expect them to make that change? Just suddenly tell every creator that they must start self-hosting? Genius, that’ll go over so well!
Peertube themselves are saying that they don’t want to replace Youtube, simply to offer alternatives and choice(which I’m cool with).
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The transition would be saving videos users watch on their devices not just creators
However it’s just one path, if Google’s engineers find a better solution then they can do that.
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How to operate without money?
Have the public libraries host the peoples internet. There are options if you can think outside your little Gmail inbox.
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I don’t use Gmail, and in fact my email isn’t attached to any big company. I know you couldn’t have known that but still.
So now you want to shift all this content onto poorly funded public libraries? Do you have any idea how difficult all that would be? Do you have any idea how much content is on Youtube? And that’s not to mention how much bandwidth a person would need to be able to send out the content they’re hosting to tens of thousands of people at once.
You’re living in a dreamland. Other options can start these things from scratch but Youtube is not about to make their system infinitely more complex and unreliable just for you and the small handful of other people who are high on their tiny corner of the internet. You’re asking me to think and you haven’t done the bare basics of it yourself.
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I still didn't get why you paid
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Because it is a service, not a favour. Keep up.
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