Tesla would not be the first robotaxi company to use this method. In fact, it’s an industry standard. It was previously reported that Cruise, the robotaxi company owned by General Motors, was employing remote human assistants to troubleshoot when its vehicles ran into trouble (the vehicles appear to have run into trouble every four to five miles). Google’s Waymo is also thought to employ the same practice, as does Zoox, the robotaxi firm owned by Amazon.
Ah, the old mechanical Turk trick. This time with chance of man slaughter.
The self-driving taxis and humanoid robots companies like Tesla are developing are just a thinly disguised way of getting around immigration law. We're a very long way away from having autonomous humanoid robots that can clean your house for you. But one remotely piloted by someone in Bangladesh wearing a haptic suit? If the tech was cheap enough, that sort of thing would be profitable.
It's effectively an extremely perverse and exploitive form of immigration. When we bring immigrants in, they typically take low-level jobs. But they also get opportunities to advance themselves further. Moreover, in the US at least, any children immigrants have on US soil automatically become US citizens. So yes, immigrants come in on the bottom of the social ladder, but they have an opportunity to climb.
Here though? This is a way of getting all the labor we want from immigrants but without offering them the usual deal in return. And even worse, they won't even be owed minimum wage.
Ah yes, you know what's better than a taxi driver? A taxi driver who relies on a camera with a limited field of vision, experiences input and video lag, and receives none of the tactile sensations that allow drivers to gauge road conditions.
Yeah, but you're ignoring one thing. I don't have to sit awkwardly hoping the driver doesn't talk to me. The risk/reward here might be screwed but I live dangerously.
Plus I welcome the opportunity to sue/fuck-over elon.
I just love we have this nice simple solution to fix traffic congestion and its been around for so long. It even hurts when people say "im forced to take public transit" like really? Owning a car is not a right. I personally do not get the hate for public transportation.
The job post also notes that such a teleoperation center requires “building highly optimized low latency reliable data streaming over unreliable transports in the real world.” Tele-operators can be “transported” into the robotaxi via a “state-of-the-art VR rig,” it adds.
Sounds an awful lot like they're going to need someone to remote pilot those cars when they get stuck. It also sounds like the system will have at least some latency, and will probably rely entirely on cameras, since Musk doesn't build LiDAR or other non-visual sensors into his cars anymore! Anyway, sorry if that disrupts your, "I'm a sad dork who feels the need to defend the world's richest man even though he makes hundreds of stupid, childish decisions that are clearly detrimental to the companies he owns," agenda.
Should be totally shut down until self diving is perfected. Shouldn't even be allowed the chance to lie about it.
Also they should get taxed into the ground. Like $5,000 Bill for signing a new customer up, and $60k every time the service is used. Daddy Warbucks can afford it and he be fixing the economy.
Waymo is doing the same. Mostly self-driving but when they get stuck a human at a help center takes the sticks. There are a lot of edge cases in the real world so it makes sense to just have the car programmed to be very conservative and let a human deal with it.
But, Elon's will demand that these drivers show "commitment to the team" by working 100 hours a week, and his vision for the tech has, ironically, never, been conservative.
Nah, they'll still have to come into the office 3-4 days a week for "collaboration" and "cross-team building". But they can do their drone whatsyhootzit from their cramped cubicles!
No, it's not. Many companies are doing this monitoring at 10:1 ratios. It hurts my brain that so many people don't understand what a massive industry changing number that is. Even at early maturity these systems can reduce workforce by 90%.
On the one hand, this means they may be serious about actually trying to make this work. On the other hand, it'll almost certainly require a subscription to use the robotaxi in fully autonomous mode because that'll be an ongoing liability for Tesla.
how many owners has the onion had now like all better known sites that were magazines they are all just skin suits that only use the name Recognition and nothing more.
i do love a car with no steering wheel what could go wrong.
its almost like this whole sub is based off something that is shit and lame now like its supposed to be funny or something. so becoming a parody of itself.
Y'all want to laugh but you lack the larger picture.
These folks will be on demand if a car gets stuck or lost. You'll have 1 person to 10 cabs and that number will go up as they collect data and iterate.
Your hated over this dude has really blinded many of you. You can be pissed but this is going to mostly replace human cab drivers in 15 years.
AI isn't going to immediately replace anyone. It will reduce demand over decades.
In another thread we’re in a discussion about housing and you’re like it’s not that bad I was able to buy a house.
I’m starting to suspect you’re a tech bro and now it all makes sense why it’s not that bad.
It’s not about hating Elon, the dude with most punchable face ever, it’s about hating the fact that my safety is gonna be compromised by lazy fucks who can’t drive themselves and instead are letting the “AI” (aka a poor remote “cab driver” who’s “driving” a dozen other cars at the same time) drive the car for them.
You financially benefit from this shit no wonder you support it. Tech bros are selling out humanity.
I tend to think half of it is bots judging by the pattern of what gets said on the mirad of topics touching the companies he runs.
Then the way they rabidly pounce on anything like the water deluge system at starbase causing massive pollution that wasn't true, then the court basically reaffirms everything SpaceX said happens and denys an injunction to stop it's use and they will still forever hate it, is quite telling of their hatred or ignorance.