Don't get it twisted, humanity is in decline. The evidence is abundant and apparent. But that does not mean we are in "the end times" of our species.

The most likely thing to happen is another round of eat the rich followed by a good idea to move forward with that will eventually bloat to the point of collapse. Rinse and repeat.

The rise of Fascism is just the last stop before the Train turns around.

It is always funny to me when people post comments like this acting like this is the first societal collapse our species has ever had.

This endgame has played out so many times it is boring to watch.

First of all I would argue that the difference between a “quirk” and a mental illness is whether it messes with your life, and pedophilia very much does - in that sense a sexuality can be a mental illness if it interferes with your mental wellbeing.

Being gay often messes with ones life and mental health. Is homosexuality a mental illness?

Secondarily would say that whether pedophilia can be “cured” through therapy - making it a mental illness in your definition - or it can only be mitigated, is something that therapists know and I don’t.

There is treatment, ranging from Drug to Behavioral therapies, and from what I can find they are pretty effective.

My "definition" does not involve "curing" anything. I said treatment can lead to positive outcomes, not that it will. Plenty of known mental illness' and disorders have terrible outcomes with or without treatment.

The point is pedophilia is either a sexuality or a disorder and it cannot exist as both.

Regardless, it makes no difference towards the point I was trying to make: people who suffer from it should not be stigmatised because of it, as it makes it harder and scarier for them to seek help

If what you are trying to say is "Pedophilia should be de-stigmatized in order to see more people seek help and have better outcomes." then simply say that.

Pedophiles need help before they hurt someone. Accepting Pedophiles for being Pedophiles and normalizing the behavior in anyway is not the way to go about it because it is not normal behavior.

It is not my responsibility to accept them for who they are as a prerequisite to them seeking help.

I do not care how "hard" or "scary" it is to seek help in the current climate. It is their responsibility, and only their responsibility, to deal with their issues before something bad happens.

The core issue in your argument is being unable to define pedophilia as either a sexuality or a mental disorder.

Either pedophilia is an inherent part of a persons sexual identity that is uncontrollable and unable to be changed, or it is a disorder that requires treatment which can lead to beneficial outcomes for the individual.

It cannot be both.

That still isn't how this works.

They are now at the point of calling me a disgusting person who doesn't belong in civilized society because I am against the production, and use, of child pornography.

Give me a million attempts and I would never have guessed that is the person I would encounter today. haha

The only people who defend child pornography this hard are pedophiles, and I am not going to continue to argue with a pedophile.

I hope you get the help you desperately need before it is too late.

Victimless crimes are not crimes. Thus producing any pornography is a crime only when it involves violating someone’s rights.

You mean like when someone takes a photo of a minor, removes their clothing to make a sexually explicit image, and uses that image to harass, bully, and extort?

Ah, so you are dumb enough to think it’s bad to defend pedophiles who have not committed a crime against a real person?

Taking a picture of a minor, making that image sexually explicit, and using it to harass, bully, and extort that minor is not a "crime against a real person"?

Damn right, I am defending pedophiles who are being persecuted for being born with that deviation alone. I am also defending pedophiles who satisfy that via any means not harming real people. I will do both till my last breath.

You should stop "defending" their "right" to child pornography and start advocating for them to get real help with the very serious mental disorder that causes them to want sexual activity with a minor instead.

If you argument is that they are disgusting and you don’t want them in society, then so are you.

My argument is that they should not be given child pornography. Your argument is that they should.

The disgusting people I don't want in society are people who use child pornography, and those who defend their use of child pornography.

Kindly see yourself out and take the rest with you.

How about you crawl back under your bridge instead?

What this conversation is about has as much to do with child pornography as hentai with loli characters.

Creating sexually explicit images of minors is child pornography.

You just can’t argue without unsubstantiated accusations, can you?

You literally confirmed my claim in your first sentence, and your last.

When real living people are being murdered and abused in droves, you are still worried more about glorified automated Photoshop and accusing its users of being the same as actual rapists.

Production of child pornography is production of child pornography. It does not need to involve rape. Producing child pornography is a separate crime.

Its users are pedophiles because they are producing child pornography. You are defending them.

These are the facts.

This type of leadership is not likely to change after an election win.

We know exactly how Pierre plans to run the country because we already had Harper as PM. It will be the same if Pierre becomes PM.

There really isn't a solid strategy against what the Conservatives are doing outside of passing legislation that helps the problems they keep parroting and communicating what is happening clearly to the population.

One half of the strategy is being blocked by the Conservatives in the house as they tie up proceedings with privilege debates, and the other half is a serious weak spot with the Liberals in general as they don't seem to know how to communicate effectively.

We will see how effective the strategy Conservatives are using post federal election because as it stands we cannot really say it is effective when the Conservatives are the only party campaigning making polling numbers lean dramatically one way.

It may not be an identical scenario but I still think it would be fair to say that an AI generated image is not as damaging as a real one.

"The deepfakes are often used to extort, harass or bully minors, she says, and are easy to make because of the many sites and apps that will "nudify" an image."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/deepfake-minors-porn-explicit-images-1.7385099

I wasn't even supposed to be here today.

It is weird how hard you have been defending the production of child pornography in this thread.

Is that supposed to be an insult?

Try saying something meaningful next time so you don't feel the need to spam my inbox 4 day old troll.

This isn't killing the problem at the root.

The root of the problem is a complete lack of care for people with addictions and mental health issues. No amount of regulation will help the root when it does not involve increase addictions and mental health care spaces.

I am going to assume you like the smell of your own farts, based on the condescending tone of your comment, and are not aware that people still start smoking without advertisements for cigarettes.

The sexiest.

I agree weekends were a mistake.

It should have always been 2 on 1 off, 2 on 2 off.

While I appreciate the sentiment, I am sorry to say "Fuck the police 101" is down the hall.