The thing is: Without boots on the ground, the country will stop to exist. And russia will not stop at ukraine. Any ukrainian person capable of walking and holding a gun will likely be drafted for whatever front will open up next.

So maybe, just maybe, Ukrainians don't care about the colors of the flag they are living under? Maybe, just maybe, it's the west and Zelensky for whom it makes a difference, and who kill innocent people chasing THEIR goals?
Maybe, just maybe, your opinion is different from opinions of people who actually get slaughtered, maybe they don't actually think that they will be killed by Russia/Putin and they would prefer that to dying for Zelensky's regime?

If zelensky is as evil as you are painting him, he would have done a 16+ draft from day 1. But he didn't.

Because he needs to create at least some kind of illusion that he is the good guy, doesn't he?
After reading some headlines saying "Zelensky kidnaps boys (or maybe girls too) aged 16 (why not 14 though, there are already some "people" saying that if needed - 14 year olds will be mobilized as well) are kidnapped and sent to the meatgrinder" probably even democrats/liberals would stop supporting this madness? At least I hope they would, I don't know if there are ANY red lines here...

It kind of does. espeically the forceful drafting. But due to the massive population difference it's not that noticable

That's awful, why does nobody talk about it? I don't see it mentioned in the news lately, while Zelensky's regime kidnappings are very well covered even in the western media nowadays. Whoever does not put this into mass media is doing Russians a favour, because some naive folks like me might start thinking that it's actually Zelensky's regime who does it, and people on Russia controlled territories are way safer and have more freedom than those who are on Zelensky controlled territories.

You're not going to frag any recruitement officers due to the lack of any grenades (I highly assume. maybe you stocked up).

It doesn't have to be a grenade - "Fragging is the deliberate or attempted killing of a soldier, usually a superior, by a fellow soldier.". Whatever wounds/kills your kidnapper (or anybody connected with kidnapping and sending people to their deaths) thus preventing them from hurting more people is good enough.

If you want to hurt the people responsible: if you get drafted and resigned to off yourself, might as well get to the front and take out some occupiers instead of dying by hurting the defending army

Fighting for Zelensky's regime will only encourage him to kidnap and hurt more people, it's morally wrong to help him in any way. Fighting him and his regime is the thing that might saves lives.

Sounds like it's worth a try.

If that's directed to me, then well - thank you for your concern, but fortunately I left the country shortly before the war started, so I will only need to fight for my life if Zelensky's regime will convince other governments to start deporting people from other countries (thankfully he did not manage to do that at least for now).
That's not the case for my friends and family most of whom are still in Ukraine. They all mostly hope to not be kidnapped until Zelensky's regime is gone.

The question is: how sure are you that it will be different when russia ultimately conquers ukraine?

I am not sure, but

1. May I (and every other Ukrainian, and every other human) pretty please decide my choices myself?
2. It doesn't happen in Russia in a nearly similar scale though. How come that even though it's "a political suicide" to criticize Ukraine (well, way less so than it was 2 years ago of course, but still) - and there are articles everywhere, including western media, about Zelensky's atrocities - but there are very few news about this happening in Russia, even though they are the bad ones and criticizing them is as popular at it can be?

Fragging any officers on ukraine side is not really going to help anyone.

Fragging officers (including "recruitment officers") is in fact the best thing you can do if you are already captured by "recruitment officers" and cannot escape the war. At least you will help other people, whom Zelensky's regime will be more afraid to kidnap now.

Only real possibility for you would be to get out of the country by any means. Even if it means sneaking over the border at night with just a backpack.

That's what people do, unfortunately a lot of people have either died that way, or were captured by the "heroes" of the border guard. Zelensky has way more success in defending the western border of his kingdom (against simple folk trying to escape his regime), then the eastern one (against a proper army). I know both people who managed to escape (although through occupied territories, not through forests/mountains/rivers) and those who got caught and sent to the meatgrinder.

Honestly, I don't even know how to comment this shit...

What I do know though, is that there millions of people sadists (some may appear in the comments to this post) who will justify this, and say that its okay for Zelensky's regime to exterminate as many Ukrainians as he wants, as long as Russians are dying as well.. :(

You're not an adult in cognitive development until 25. Children are easily manipulated even at late stages.

Thankfully, our great Lord and Saviour Zelensky has solved the problem of manipulation!
In Ukraine nobody manipulates you to join the army, you are just kidnapped off the street and sent to a meatgrinder (sometimes a free beating is included, and even a free stay in some basement for a few days!).
And that's what will probably happen to 18 year olds soon.

I don't hate blockchain, but I can see why other people might.

Blockchain's more or less only use is in cryptocurrencies (yes there are theoretically other usages, but let's be honest it's a drop in the ocean). The #1 cryptocurrency can do about 10TPS (please don't even mention all the broken L2s), the #2 is "just about to revolutionize the world with smart contracts" for almost ten years already (so far the most revolutionary thing is monkey jpegs), then there are a few stable coins which aren't even really a cryptocurrency at all, and thousands of literally memecoins.

Real cryptocurrency (XMR and maybe BCH) can and is used as currency (I pay for lots of legal stuff like VPN/VPSs/domains with XMR), but not many people are interested in that I guess.

Have you considered trying another frontend instead of lemmy-ui?

Pointing out their hypocrisy will not help anybody.

I choose to, perhaps naively, think that some people might actually recognize how absurd this is, and hopefully change their opinion :)

The best you can do is sit down and watch this comedy from the sidelines.

Just "watching comedy from the sidelines" can result in one day waking up in a totalitarian hell :/
(Not that my shitposting will change much of course :/)

Yeah, so just as I said - good guys banning social medias is good because they are the good guys protecting the democracy against bad people and so on, and bad guys banning social medias is bad because they are the bad guys censoring the truth from oppressed people or something.

No hypocrisy here :)

Let me guess, you think Russia/China/etc. banning websites is bad (because obviously they are doing it due to being authoriatarian regimes and to not let people learn the truth), and EU (or generally any western country) banning websites is good (because obviously it would be done to protect democracy and people from consuming dangerous misinformation)?
Did I miss anything? :)

I guess you’re right. If only Zelensky would stop his aggression against the peaceful Russian and north Korean forces

If he were to stop his aggression at Ukrainians, I would be satisfied already.

freeing Ukraine from the burden of democracy…

Democracy? What democracy? Did you mean to say Zelensky's authoritarian regime where people are treated worse than dogs?

Ah I'm so sorry for disliking Zelensky trying to kill me, my family, friends and every other Ukrainian

He is not "protecting his homeland". He is flying around the world telling people that he does that, that he protects democracy and so on, while people are trapped in his prison, kidnapped off the streets and sent to the meatgrinder.

Putin will happily send every last Russian in to the meat grinder before he accept defeat

Funny, because it's exactly the same with Zelensky and unfortunate Ukrainians who haven't managed to escape his regime.

I guess it's kinda obvious in my case :)

Hey :)

Ukranian governement is not fascist, nor with a dictator.

It is both. Zelensky's regime ticks almost every (or just every) description of fascism from wikipedia. He is a dictator. Even your comment in the next sentences doesn't DISPROVE it, you merely try to JUSTIFY it.

Posting a random video, with a story, without providing a single fucking source (that isn't russian propaganda).

I (re)posted dozens of such videos already, where my compatriots who haven't managed to escape Zelensky's murderous regime either fight kidnapping attempts from TCC, or try to escape or are getting caught and busified.
This was described countless times in western media https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/10/03/ukraine-is-employing-increasingly-controversial-methods-for-mobilization_6728127_4.html and I actually just found out it is also described in wikipedia now, including the word busification https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis, and yet there is always someone to deny it. As for my sources, I mainly take it from Ukrainian telegram channels, where people post those from first sources.
"Ухилянт Iнфо": https://t.me/+ECYgfpxkTz4zOGNh
"Ховайся": https://t.me/HOVAYSY
"Реальний Київ": https://t.me/kievreal1

But Ukrainians are Russian bots now, right? How dare we, not willing to die for your interests?

You also insinuated zelenski is exterminating his people, which is insane

Why? He literally forbade people from leaving the country, kidnaps people one by one off the streets and sends them to their deaths. How is this not an extermination? Every moment he remains in power is a moment he exterminates more and more Ukrainians, if he won't be stopped he will kill everyone.

Fuck the government unless that government is a fascist one with a dictator, then that is okay of course

What? I just criticized a fascist government with a dictator, and you accuse me of not doing that? 🤦‍♂

And what is "insane" in my comment?

Eh, and as almost my every comment like this one, it got reported from LW user with reason "pro Russian bot" :/
If you think that caring about peoples' lives and posting evidence of human right abuses is somehow a sign of a person being Russian, or just something that is worth a condemnation.. What kind of mental gymnastics routine are you doing every morning to still consider yourself a good person?..

For all the people here "supporting Ukraine" because you know, if Putin captures Ukraine then he will genocide Ukrainians and all that - this is exactly the same narration that Zelensky's regime is using to kidnap people and send them to the meatgrinder (kill them). A video from Kharkiv where TCC attempts to kidnap people from a bus scaring them with "Russian World" coming to Ukraine: https://files.catbox.moe/c72hez.MP4

People in the bus are accusing them of being "a traitor to the motherland" and telling them to go fuck themselves. But you know better what those people should do, right? They all should go and die for your wild fantasies of "but but but Putin will invade the whole world if we don't stop him (well, not you personally of course, why would you go and fight your wars, but you know, Ukrainians)".
After all, Zelensky said that Ukrainians are willing to fight, and he would never lie, right? All the videos, articles in your western medias about people NOT wanting to fight but still being exterminated by Zelensky's regime, etc are fakes.

I hope he will keep his word and finish the war in Ukraine.

Saving millions of lives will probably make US democrats and all the other sadists very sad though :)