Been browsing reddit since the start of the election. With kamalas loss I'm noticing right wing voices start to emerge. Reddit is going to transition to a right wing platform right before our eyes.
I'm familiar with t_d. They have always been there but they would sequester themselves to right wing spaces. Election time they'd come out their hidey holes but were very easy to spot.
Really, the platform has gone straight to shit in the last 18 months. There are possibly more bots than humans at this point, and a huge number of the people who made it good back in the day are gone. Much of the interaction is now driven by algorithmic rage farming.
Its CEO is a small-minded vicious little fascist. Staying on reddit helps support the hard right.
Leave. Don't look back. If Lemmy and Mastodon don't seem as exciting, make them better by being active here.
Lemmy is basically my /r/all and I find use for Reddit when it comes to niche subs. Maybe one day Lemmy will be useful for that but it’s nowhere close to that level right now. There’s also a ton of fucking clowns on Lemmy as well, and you all know who I’m talking about
The US is already transitioning to a right wing society right before you eyes. Reddit as well as all mainstream media are just following this movement.
I wouldn’t have agreed with you a week ago but I think you’re right. I live in Loudoun county Virginia which is quite blue. My oldest kid who is 15 asked me if I was really voting for Harris, because he and his friends like Trump more. Then my second oldest who is 11 also told me he likes Trump more than Harris.
My family is Dutch Canadian so it’s not like anyone in my family was speaking positively about Trump. Quite the opposite actually.
They are getting all these ideas online and conservatives are absolutely crushing the digital landscape with podcasts and YouTube. They are making connections with the youth that the dems just aren’t offering right now.
It's because they're offering easy answers to complicated problems. No one wants to listen to me explain for 45 minutes why something is an issue that dates back three decades and will probably require three more decades of fixing, they just want to feel good now.
Meh, it's also usually useless. Much less useful then it had been in the past. I honestly have more luck with gpt then scrolling through dead posts with 1 response that I have to load twice because anything other than old reddit is a psychic attack that will wound me.
I'm watching leftist subs already get filled up with Russian propaganda about the election being stolen. It's depressing. They're doing the same shit to us as they did to the right in 2020 and we're falling for it.
I haven't seen any of my friends repeat stolen election claims. Most everyone seems to feel that the margin was huge, and the DNC fucked up, but it is what it is. A few are panicking and worried of violence, so we're getting together for a bonfire together to reassure them that we'll all be OK, and we are in an area where no one would allow harm to come to their neighbor. We lived through four years of Trump before, and it was stupid every day, and we'll live through it again.
The implications of actually deporting all the illegals, & Trumps repeated rhetoric of persecuting his political opponents is what is really worrying me. The project 2025 agenda being the playbook... Theyve had 4 years of planning for this second time around of the monkeys running the circus
One of the reasons I came to Lemmy was because I was tired of their rhetoric. It became very sexist and racist. Not to mention is almost all bots just posting and replying to each other. Reddit was turning into cesspool ages ago.
It was the firing of Victoria in 2015 that was a noticeable enshitification moment for me, perhaps followed by the 2016 election where people seemed to lose the ability to have a discussion altogether (increase of bots no doubt not helping). But the worsening trends were there before hand, these were just moments of acceleration.
Reddit needs to switch because the right wing propaganda machine doesn't like competition and wants reddit for itself. They aren't going to Twitter it because it fragile enough, being mod run, to fall apart. Instead they will flip it.
I noticed the exact same thing. So many comments either celebrating Trump or just saying that everyone is being dramatic and Trump will be fine. I've also seen a lot of comments calling reddit an "extreme left echo chamber" which is just funny
I find it difficult to defend the idea that Reddit is not a leftist echo chamber. I love Reddit, but it's not a place you go for open and honest discussions between people from both sides of the aisle. Even non-political subreddits will meet right-leaning and conservative ideas with hostility. You can browse the front page of Reddit every day and never see a single thing even remotely pro-Trump or pro-Republican. That's not a knock on Reddit. That's just the truth.
I think seeing anything protrump hit the front page would be so triggering for anyone on there they would leave or have words. This is not a political environment where these two side can exist in the same space because one side is ok with authoritarian and xenophobic rhetoric.
None of what you said makes it "leftist" though. In fact, I'd say you're likely to get banned from r/politics way faster attacking the DNC party-line neoliberal orthodoxy from the left than you would be from the right.
Not just right wing voices emerge, democratic people now see it's pointless to argue. Which is the much bigger damage. Imagine what happens when people no longer fight back. We live in post-factual times, it's over.
The amount of content about Israel/Palestine that is swamped by Zionists on Reddit would imply that it is mostly already far right.
The latest being the attempts to control the narrative of what happened in Netherlands around the football match. But not sure anyone believes the Zionist side of that one.
Not to be "that guy," but it really has been happening for quite awhile now (/r/thedonald as one example). And I agree it seems inevitable that it will only get worse.
Honestly seeing how much shitty Reddit has become has made me realise, how better off I am now by quitting all the major social media platforms. We definitely need to start popularising alternative to the mainstream social media platforms esp as the major ones are super prone to disinformation and stuff, due to capitalistic interests etc.
Agreed. Lemmy is still coming along nicely, we've got a good suite of apps to choose from now, and features are steadily being added. It's significantly more ready for primetime than it was a year ago. Still a WIP of course, but useability is decent.
Not sure if this will work, reddit isn't shittier just from corporate interest instead is all these things too: community , ai automated bots, and advertising.
Now if Lemmy court the eye of bad actors I would fear our moderation may struggle with keeping bad actor bots from our platform, same goes for instance administrators and community moderators, what systems do we really have to keep them in check?
Spez has been trying to emulate Elon as much as possible, sucking up to him whenever he can. He sees Twitter as the goal for Reddit to reach.
You're going to see the same thing happen on just about every major corporate social platform real soon. Meta's platforms, TikTok, YouTube, Twitch... They're all hurting for cash now that they've mostly dried up all their VC funding from the 2010s and are 100% going to appeal to the Right, who have promised to give businesses more rights and legal protections than ever before.
2016 was an absolute shit show on Reddit. It was a dogfight between the Bernie Bros and the Trumpers until Bernie got knocked out of the primaries then knocked off Reddit by CTR. Then it was a dogfight between the ShillDawgs and the MAGAts with the t_d'ers eventually coming out on top because of their willingness to endlessly game the Reddit algorithm.
Tankies are pretty crazy. Will be hard to keep things from becoming a fight between tankies and fascists.
Just remember, end of the day, these are archetypes that always end in oppression. You should lend your support to people who don't fit a mold. It might not be successful in its first iteration but through the iterative process it becomes the answer to an unsolved problem. It will have its own problems too. So remember to fend off bad faith actors best you can. A system designed to defeat authoritarianism will be weak to one emerging from inside.
Starting to emerge or the left wing bots going down? Or the insanely heavy handed left wing mods not banning every person for being even slightly right wing because they got a reality check?
Perhaps all the bots pushing her campaign got shut down, and the site is now organic again?
There's no way r/all was that interested in her campaign to start with. The past couple of weeks have been super weird. I check the top 10 post on r/all regularly to see if anything special is going on in the world as i can't be bothered doom scrolling news sites.
All that's been on the top is how amazing she is and awful he is. I highly doubt the average user is that invested in the topic.