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White House pressing Ukraine to draft 18-year-olds so they have enough troops to battle Russia

apnews.com White House pressing Ukraine to draft 18-year-olds so they have enough troops to battle Russia

President Joe Biden’s administration is urging Ukraine to quickly increase the size of its military by drafting more troops and revamping its mobilization laws to allow for the conscription of troops as young as 18.

World News @lemmy.ml geneva_convenience @lemmy.ml 1d ago

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How about sending artillery shells instead? If the US is running out of artillery shells it should invest in some production capacity since it's critical for any large scale war, absolute no brainer.
- artillery shells buy you attack power.
  
  Soldiers buy you military might.
  
  once Trump gets into power they will no longer get military attack from the US and they won't have the time to drum up military might because Russia is doubling their attacks on Jan 6th.
That's rich. "Send your future down the drain while we continue to send scraps." tho even the scraps are gonna run dry soon. Fuck biden. He could have gone down in history as a truly great leader, got everything handed to him on a silver platter, but clearly, he wishes to walk in Chamberlin's shoes.

Honestly I'm ashamed, especially as a European, we should be doing so much more. We haven't learned anything from the great wars... We're experiencing a "what if Czechoslovakia fought back" scenario, we can end it right there in Ukraine. But no...
It is massively fucked but... they probably should.

This war is ending in March or April one way or another. Europe/NATO have committed to supporting Ukraine. The US is almost guaranteed to actively betray them. And you can bet the EU and the like are going to be consolidating resources in fear of whatever else comes up.

So Ukraine needs to win NOW. It is probably already too late to meaningfully train those conscripts but having a military force that can act in that small window of late January is basically their only hope.
- Its actually kinda amazing they are doing so well with so limited a draft and how russia has had to call in north korea. I mean even if russia wins their method to to fuck up ukraine infrastructure so then at that point what have they won and they buried themselves in the process.
- A third party encouraging the maiming of an entire generation in hopes of turning the tides of increasingly overwhelming odds...
  
  https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-isw-maps-front-line-advances-1990922
  
  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0dpdx420lo
  
  https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/16/europe/ukraine-russia-war-frontlines-latest-intl/index.html
  
  Remind me why the Russians are cast as the "meat grinders"
I admit I'm super surprised that the conscription age is 25.
- Drafts are barbaric.
  
  We shouldn't accept this shit at any age in any country.
  
  If we all just fucking stopped doing the dirty work of warmongers we would no longer have wars.
  
  The warmonger is the one invading Ukraine.
  
  I agree with you 100%.
  
  The worst part, is that the barbaric warmongers are absolutely conscripting and coercing their population to go kill people.
  
  Clearly, the "Z nazis" are not to be convinced to simply stop throwing their lives away for a dictator. They actively recruit and reward people who revel in murder, and celebrate them as national heroes for their schoolchildren to look up to.
  
  So...what are the defenders to do?
  
  Or you'd all be drafted into the military of the conquering country that was the last holdout for not drafting its people.
  
  True, but if the random Russian conscript stopped doing Putin's dirty work, he would be shot. That's a pretty good motivator.
At that rate you might as well let NATO serve the purpose it was created for. Even tho that will.probably spark a world war.
- Honestly I'm all for it; then handing the keys to Trump lmao.
  
  Or implement a No Fly Zone and fully commit NATO forces to air defense. See Putin squirm on what to do and how to react. Makes the Putin-Trump relationship tense. Trump backing down would be seen as weak. Putin wouldn't retaliate because he wouldn't risk losing his puppet.
- "keep the Americans in, the Germans down, and the Russians out"
  
  best thing for America is to prolong this war as long as possible.
  
  The best thing would have been to fund Ukraine a lot early in and knock Russia down on the cheap. But you have a point thats probably the next best thing geopolitically. The red blooded american in me is just mad we didnt take the chance at an old enemy.
Also, bring back all the Ukrainian men living as expats abroad. If you want to use your Ukrainian passport to live in another country, it’s time to earn that right. Your country needs you.

Edit: if you’re downvoting at least say why, “I’m a Russian bot” will suffice. So will, “I’m a coward.”

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