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Well of course they don’t say that. They have negative sounding terms like the old “bleeding heart liberal,” because as every good conservative knows it is weakness and foolishness to give a shit about other people.
I guess today they would just go for woke. It’s short and meaningless, but it started out being used by minorities so again every good conservative knows it’s a bad thing and a killer insult.
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My dad said that one all the time. Little kid me thought it was a sick burn. Somewhere in my 20s it hit me that it's actually more of a compliment
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Yeah, kinda. My racist aunt was like: "yeah, so I've had some issues with my daughter. She's woke, you know, so she gets angry at everything I say. I can't say anything anymore. I don't mind her not coming over. No respect for the parents and elderly these days, their generation is totally fucked up. Must be puberty or something." (*my cousin is 32)
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Yes, just with very different adjectives
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No, he looks forward to using me as a target for their collective derision.
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This Thanksgiving we took an opportunity to talk shit to my 21 year old nephew. He had told me about horseshoe theory and other "I'm not right wing, I'm a moderate" bullshit before. Today he praised RFK. The three adults other than Grandma, being his mom, his aunt, and his uncle (me), all piled on with stories of what a bullshit hack RFK is.
Then we left him alone about it and had a good time. Strike hard and fast then talk about something else. Leave them with something to think about.
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That sucks. I wouldn't go.
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Pretty much. My whole family was fairly left leaning once upon a time. However they have since fallen for the mass trump indoctrination.
My mother who was once an elementary school teacher to some of the most under privileged children in tulsa, who lived for her job and only wanted a better future for her Hispanic and black students now wants those very children to be deported if illigeal cause she took the trump pill.
My father who used to employ only Mexicans for his somewhat successful construction company, wants that cheap labor deported as they are " taking US citizens jobs" like what?
The craziest part is my family is half Mexican, my grandma came from Mexico to the us in the 50s in search for a better life for her children. So my dad is half Mexican. Talk about some irony.
My Mexican nana would be sad to see whom her children are blindly following
Sorry for tge rant but sheesh, its gonna be a rough day
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My mom went though her self proclaimed "trump era" during the 2016 elections after my sister came out as bi. It was hell. I'm terrified of what she'll do if I tell her I'm trans and have known so for 5+ years.
My sister's boyfriend is trans (on HRT for 3 years) but she's started going own a spiral again after my sister told her, today she dropped the line of "He is NOT getting my blessing!" and my (homophobic but doesn't know) grandma said "well guess [sister] is gonna be like me and Pop!" as my grandma didn't get a blessing for her marriage.-
You may not get a blessing from your family for who you truly are. However there are a ton of folks that support you and whoever/However you want to live your life.
Be gay Do crime And be kind 😉
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Are you sure they don’t have early onset dementia? One of the symptoms is loss of empathy
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Some jews voted for Hitler...
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Tulsan here as well. I had a Harris sign in my yard for a couple of months for all the good it did. There were actually quite a few if them where I live in midtown (21st and Lewis). But this is the blueist part of town...
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My paranoid brain needs me to recommend that you edit out those cross streets.
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Isn't that where Nate Dogg hooked a left and saw some brothers shootin' dice?
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I work with a lot of immigrants. Some 1st generation some others. They're all "legal". No one shits on immigrants like other immigrants. Many of them feel the need to tell people they're not like those other ones. It's sad.
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My racist/sexist/generally terrible uncle calls me liberal, brainwashed and woke, not open minded.
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Hey, my thanksgiving dinner was interrupted by me telling half my family they are not family, so theres always hope
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Guess he doesn't call himself racist or sexist either
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This is inaccurate. Not nearly enough slurs.
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Of course not. They live for the outrage and offense they cause. It's like a validation for them that they're on the right track. Like finding enemies in a video game, it indicates that it's the path to follow. They don't realize they're the villain though.
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They're like stupid children with bad parents. But they are whole ass adults.
It's so pathetic.
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One time as a kid I took a southern Baptist church trip to Central America. When I got back my racist uncle said "y'all look like a bunch of foreigners." Mind you that at the time I was blond enough to be a Hitler Youth poster boy, but heaven forbid my skin was brown from being in the sun. 🙄
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"Woke". They say woke to somehow try to make inclusion sound like a bad thing.
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They literally make "Antifa" out to be bad, lol. Like, sound it out: They're "against fascism". Shouldn't everyone rational reject fascism...?
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I just tell them to go to sleep then if they are so concerned about being woke. They won't see the woke if they aren't woke.
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I don’t get why we don’t call the “anti-woke” crowd “the asleep.” It seems like if they want to treat becoming awakened as an insult, we should be reminding them that they’re the ones who have their eyes closed and are attempting to ignore all of history.
The optimist in me believes that some day the majority of them will wake up, the same way the majority of Germans eventually denounced the nazi party.
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The majority of Germans denounced the nazi party because of social pressure to conform, which is coincidentally the same reason the majority of Germans went along with the nazi party when they were in power. The majority of people in general are so politically disengaged that they may as well be leaves blowing in the wind.
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The sleeping fascists
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The traditional way this was phrased was "bleeding heart liberal". The implication being that they were so giving as to be gullible and not realistic.
Nowadays the preferred insults are "commie" or "woke". I don't hear it directed at me much, due to particular family circumstances that forced them to accept my gay-married trans ass, but boy do I hear it about Democrats every year.
(I know that Dems aren't commie or even 'woke' most of the time, but to them it is a distinction without a difference. To them, those terms refer to anyone who thinks that people don't deserve to die for the 'crime' of being homeless.)
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Glad for you your family at least accepted your identity and partner.
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Man, I'm not seeing any of those motherfuckers. They don't warrant the time of day, let alone getting to disturb my peace. I'm just gonna make some good food and hang out with my mom and the dog and have a nice day.
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Tell your dog I said hi, and wish I could hang out with them!
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She says "what's up and also do you have any turkey?"
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Yes.
Or like my parents, before I stopped attending altogether, “Our ‘lost’ son is going to be there, we need to pray for his soul.”
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I hope you surrounded yourself with other people who love you since then. Stay strong.
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People who love are few and far between, but I am doing better now than I was. Thank you.
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No they think “Oh goody! I get to start a fight and feed off my own rage and self righteousness and own the libs at the same time! And there will be pie!”
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Think there are definitely people that choose to believe the world is a certain way because that feels right and that's how it should be. Rather than what it actually is. Just completely brainwashed and refusing to see evidence.
Plenty of woke people will claim immigrants from poor countries, that have intolerant religions and low records for homophobia and sexism even from places like UN, will be upstanding citizens and cause 0 problems at all (as a group average).
Those people are equally if not more annoying.
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I feel like Gen Z is massively disappointing.
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I know this is a joke, but if this is genuinely how someone thinks, then it so self-absorbed and narrow minded to not be able to step out of your own mindset.
The comment implies absolute good/evil and that people are knowingly acting evil. The people you don't agree with do have consistent moral principles that they are working with (however misguided or skewed they may be). I can't stand racist/sexist people either, but if you can't see how these people are worried that "woke" people are destroying their view of society and threatening their morals, then you won't really be able to engage them to change their minds. This entrenched thinking is why all discourse is now just shouting matches at each other.
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when is this stupid "we need to sit down and 'talk to nazis' in order to change their minds" attitude going to finally fucking die?
we've been way too fucking tolerant of that shit for way too many years, and thanks to that, we're living in a fascist country now. excuse me, but fuck that shit.
fuck trump, fuck everyone who voted for him, fuck everyone who voted third party, and fuck everyone who didn't vote. the time for trying to "understand" and "engage" cultists who literally throw away any viewpoint they don't like as "fake news" is long fucking past.
this stupid bullshit is why we got trump the first time AND now.
edit: the only reason biden won 2020 was because of trump's absolute-worst-fucking-possible response to covid, which would have been fucking hilarious if so many innocent people didn't have to die from it
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There was a time when I was worried about changing people’s minds and trying to see things from their side. It’s not worth the effort any more, at least for me. They’re dug in and want to argue, but they aren’t open to changing their minds.
I don’t feel like it’s my responsibility to tolerate their hatred to try to explain why they should care about people that aren’t like them. I’d rather spend time with the people that I feel safe around and know aren’t bigoted
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The people you don't agree with do have consistent moral principles that they are working with
Fuck no, they absolutely do not. Their principles are entirely cherry picked and applied only when convenient. If you can't see that, I'm not really sure what world you're living in but it ain't this one
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Nah, it’s sports team mentality. You can say any reasoned, logical, humanist argument you want, but people will never turn against their “team”.
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