Foundation S02E10 - Creation Myths - Episode Discussion
Synopsis: Season finale. Gaal, Salvor, and Hari chart a new path forward on Ignis. Demerzel heads to Trantor, taking actions that will change Empire forever.
Fuck it, the show is pretty good. Lee Pace is amazing, and although it’s barely inspired by the books it’s been growing on me. That was a great season finale
Day finally getting his comeuppance, his moral failure finally causing a breaking point, and then getting spaced and losing his whole fleet in one fell swoop. What is Empire without spacers or their fleet?
Bel and Hober sharing that wine that's been hyped up the whole season, only for it to taste like Beki's asshole. Loved the ship scenes, especially with Hober and Brother Constant. Funny and sweet while being entirely tragic.
Oh God, that beautiful, tragic moment between Dusk and Demerzel. Laura Birn and Terrence Mann killed it. Watching her feel such emotion at having to do something she couldn't bear doing, and Dusk forgiving her. I think he was genuine there even if he did mark her as a betrayer to Dawn, he knew she didn't have a choice.
Everyone on Terminus survived in a big space vault?? Can't wait to hear the explanation behind that one. Poor glawen :(
I'm glad Sareth and Dawn escaped and I can't wait to see what they do, hopefully we still get a glimpse of their lives in exile even with the time jump.
Ignis felt somewhat weak in comparison to the rest of the storylines in this episode. I think I would have preferred the Ignis Hari reveal to be that he was a robot, but I guess this was fine too. Didn't feel as interesting as the rest of the show. Tellem giving one last fuck you through Josiah felt contrived, I know she was a villain but I didn't particularly feel her motivation behind it.
David S. Goyer suggested on the official podcast that he always planned for two characters to survive to the end, and after this episode, I'm convinced that one of them absolutely has to be Demerzel. She was there before the beginning, and after this season, it's clear that this is really her story.
Even Harry is just an incidental player in the long tale.
Completely agree. I think Demerzel's endgame has to be freedom, right? How she's going to get there is so interesting, since it seems like she can't do anything about it without violating her programming. She is literally forced to act against herself. She needs an adversary/ally, someone who knows her well enough and can disable her, reprogram her, without her seeing it coming. Perhaps the Dawn-in-Exile can work with Foundation to put a plan in motion.
I guess the alternative is that the conditions of the world make it so it is no longer possible for her to love and perpetuate the genetic Empire, but where would that leave her? Would she be tasked with restarting it, self-destructing, or finally be free? Cleon I doesn't seem like the type to let go.
I think last week’s episode was better. Getting really tired of the protagonist plot armor. Though at least a few characters might have actually died in this episode, you never know with this show.