196 @lemmy.blahaj.zone Moss @lemmy.blahaj.zone 1y ago

Rules, regulations, or: why am I banned???

==please incorporate the word rule in your post titles==
Here are the things that get you banned:
-saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad or hexbear account
-tankie behaviour
-nazi behaviour
-authoritarian behaviour
-genocide denial
-prejudice of any kind
-anything else that is clearly bad

Things that get your post/comment removed:
-AI generated content
-anything in the banlist
-posts that are so off topic that they don't fit on 196 at all
-moldy memes (old memes, crusty memes, irrelevant memes. The type of things you'd see on your aunt's Facebook page or Elon musk's Twitter account with a laughing emoji as the caption)
-corpoposting

Ban length varies, and is mostly based off of whether or not I think you will change your behavior. I have baned certain people for upwards of 2000 days.

---------EDIT:NSFW RULES---------
NSFW Content is now fully permitted BUT it must be tagged. Any NSFW content that has not been tagged and blurred will be removed. Content warnings should also be added to the title in brackets. Example: [penis] or: [explicit description of sex].
Non-sexualized breasts of any gender are not considered inappropriate and therefore do not need to be blurred/tagged. Yes, even female breasts.

IRL GORE IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER ANY CONDITION.

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Please leave any suggested edits in the comments.

JAN 2024 UPDATE: MOLDY MONDAYS
Monday is now moldy Monday. on this day and only this day moldy memes are not only allowed, but encouraged. The crustier the better. The type of thing that's been reposted at least 2,000 times with filters and bad crops and watermarks and hopefully minions. please caption with moldy rule

If you have any issues, please reach us at 196mods@protonmail.com. PLEASE do not dm me, as I am not consistently available and tend to step away from the mantle for weeks to months at a time.

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saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad account

based
- Unfathomably based
- !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works approves
- The rule has since been changed to be lemmygrad or hexbear account. Do you know why these two instances are targeted? New to lemmy and made an account here, but was considering hexbear as well at first glance.
  
  You deleted your comment, but I can still answer. Basically, both home servers tend to revolve around alt-left fascism, so we're extremely wary of what these users have to say.
how tankies are still surprised that fascist apologia gets them banned in an antifascist community is beyond me
- Why are they even allowed to federate here
  
  The main dev of lemmy is one of them, that's how.
  
  I mean, it says in the post, they're allowd to federate but are "on probation"
  
  Probably because banning people based purely on political ideology is kind of facist 😝
  
  why does this comment dance between ultra-naive to ultra-troll in my mind?
- Literally
- Anti tankie propaganda is fascist apologia.
they did it they kicked the tankies out of 196
- Literally 196
- What is a tankie
  
  An authoritarian communist that is supportive of Russia, China or other repressive eegimes.
TFW the other leftists wont let you try to subvert the movement into “the people’s fascism”

they are ruining leftist unity
- Nah nah you gotta REDEFINE fascism to be anything that even remotely criticises Russia 😎
Based rules :3
- Welcome to the mod team!
  
  wow it's that easy?
  
  Based rules :3
I'm here because fuck u/spez
- I will upvote literally anything that has "fuck" and "spez" in the same sentence.
  
  Spez is so hot, I want to fuck him.
Because of the Reddit migration, 196 is coming up in my Lemmy feed a lot, I have no idea what it is (because you haven't made a description).

This could be your chance to gain more community members if you update your description
- Well sort of the point of 196 is that you can post almost anything, the only rule is that you have to post each time before leaving. This rule isn't enforced for obvious reasons, unlike the ban against tankies.
  
  before leaving as in before switching to another community while browsing? or as in when you unsubscribe? and what if I never leave
  
  What do you mean "before leaving"?
Can you please ban me for 5 days so that I know what it looks like on this platform?
- I'll ban you for one day because you didn't do anything against the rules
  
  It was fine. Thanks.
  
  can you ban me for 10 minutes?
Common moss w
- mossy cobblestone?
Unfathomably based
Ah yes, some good news today as well

Happy to see this community is starting off on the right foot
Based, thanks moss
I've got a slight suggested edit

Basically the first item to get banned adding Hexbear to the list with Lemmygrad

I've been seeing a huge influx of tankie takes from hexbear accounts all over (and here) since they federated
- My team is on it, and I will personally pitch in in dealing with it once auditions are over for the thing I'm working on
  
  Thank you and I'm happy to hear it
communism good; capitalism bad; is that iffy?
- None of us have any issue with communists
  
  None of us have any issue with communists
  
  saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad account
  
  tankie behaviour
  
  authoritarian behaviour
  
  Color me skeptical.
  
  And your modlog determined, that was a lie
Where can i find the banlist?
- You have a link near the bottom of the channel's description at the right, which in English it's likely called 'Moderation history' or 'Moderation log'. It isn't only a ban list, but general information on mod activity.
  
  Love the transparency 💜
  
  Thanks :)
  
  Also, on every instance, there is a link called 'instance'. It contains information about which lemmy instance is federated and banned by your instance.
  
  Does the mod log only log activities from a specific instance visited, your instance, or all federated instances.
  
  Cause I've seen way more activities in the modlist than possible on my small instance, not to mention almost all the removes are from communities outside of my instance.
I was wondering when someone would start discriminating based on what instance you made your account on...
- You can use 196 on a lemmygrad account, but because it's by definition a tankie Lemmy site, you're basically on probation.
  
  Permanently Deleted
  
  Rude ;)
  
  I might be lost, but what does 196 mean?
- @100beep @moss It's a standard function of the fediverse. But you can make another account somewhere else.
How does one get flair here?

Also, because I'm bad at image-memeing, blåhaj sounds like what you do when you've had a few and a cop pulls you over.
- There aren't any flairs
  
  There aren't any flairs yet
Hi! I don't want to break any rules so I'd like to ask first, what are the rules on self promotion? I was thinking of making a post about a 20-30 minute queer fishing game I made for this year's pride (this one to be specific) and thought it could be nice to share here but don't want to break a rule to do so.
- It's allowed for now. If self promo becomes A problem, I'll hold another poll.
  
  Thank you, sounds good! I'll only do one post so I can make sure it's not spammy.
- This looks cute. I like your artstyle.
Did u take my hot n ready meme down for corpoposting?

Whack. Literally 1884.
- Yeag sorry 🥺
Iffy
- straight to gulag
Question is Lemmy.world affiliated with the tankies that made lemmygrad or is it separate? I didn't know about any of this prior so now I'm worried a bit
- No. It is not
  
  I may be stupid but did you mean not affiliated or not separate?
Hi, may I please repost this as a reply within this comment section but with slightly different formatting for the sake of readability?
- Yeah, the post is missing its newlines. If the post correctly used newlines, new paragraphs, and better markdown overall, it would probably look like:
  
  The post, but correctly marked down.
  
  please incorporate the word rule in your post titles
  
  Here are the things that get you banned:
  
  saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad account
  
  tankie behaviour
  
  nazi behaviour
  
  authoritarian behaviour
  
  genocide denial
  
  prejudice of any kind
  
  anything else that is clearly bad
  
  Things that get your post/comment removed:
  
  anything in the banlist
  
  posts that are so off topic/moldy that they don't fit on 196 at all (very rare, not usually enforced)
  
  Ban length varies, and is mostly based off of whether or not I think you will change your behavior. I have baned certain people for upwards of 200 days.
  
  EDIT: NSFW RULES
  
  NSFW Content is now fully permitted BUT it must be tagged.
  
  Any NSFW content that has not been tagged and blurred will be removed.
  
  Content warnings should also be added to the title in brackets. Example: [penis] or: [explicit description of sex].
  
  Non-sexualized breasts of any gender are not considered inappropriate and therefore do not need to be blurred/tagged. Yes, even female breasts.
  
  IRL GORE IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER ANY CONDITION.
  
  Please leave any suggested edits in the comments.
- Yes of course!
-posts that are so off topic that they don't fit on 196 at all

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Why are downvotes disabled in this instance?
- Idk I'm not an admin
Finally. I am returned.

I was very randomly banned from the "real" 196 and never got unbanned, even after notifying the admins 3 times without response.

Also: Fuck Reddits CEOs.
- I got banned because I accepted a free NFT thing without realising what it was. Lmao. Was during that time Gobby started power tripping with his autobans
  
  Later I got banned from reddit entirely for saying "Men will blame everything before ever admitting that toxic masculinity might be the source of their misery"
  
  So I switched to Lemmy 🩵🩵🩵
Hey I just wanna say it's good to be back! I've been having 196 withdrawals.
- Yeah same
Nice
IM TRYING TO POST TO FOLLOW THE RULE BEFORE LEAVING BUT I KEEP GETTING AN ERROR THATI MUST SPECIFY WHAT COMMUNITY HELP PLEASE
What is corpoposting? I am dumb baby
- I'm not sure but my guess is it's posts that support corporations, like advertising or memes that could be ads if that makes sense
- posting memes/general posts that are pro-corp. I.E. mcdonalds sprite hits different, or wendys twitter, or whatever
- Hi Dumb Lady!
I’m curious to know more context abt the statement revolving around hexbear & lemmygrad? I’m very new to the fediverse so i don’t know much about these instances
- Tankie pro-mao/stalin cesspools that ferment people in a powerful echo chamber. Basically hyper-reactionist toxic "leftists" looking for any excuse to stir up trouble
iffy is not a common international english word and hard to understand for non-native English speakers
- It’s in the Oxford Dictionary and it’s definition is the first thing that comes up when you google it…
  
  Bold of you to assume I use Google in 2024! /sJk
Yeah, ban me please
- Ok
I'm here to post before I leave. Or do I need to post content? Hell I dunno, Im just itching for the sub
I've been seeing more posts featuring companies, like this one.

I think there should be some rule about advertisement. We probably shouldn't ban all mentions of companies, but some limits should be in place.
- I have made a poll to see whether or not I should start removing posts like these
IRL GORE IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER ANY CONDITION.

Finally an internet community of people that don't think it's funny if people die in horrible ways.
Are words like 'stupid' and 'crazy' considered slurs here
- No?? Can't think of any context in which they would be
  
  That's good
  
  I was on Raddle and they treat those words like they're equivalent to the r-slur, so it's good to have a Reddit alternative with at least a shred of sanity
  
  There are some communities that consider them to be slurs against neurodivergent people. There's definitely an argument to be made there but at the same time they're so commonly used to refer to neurotypical people as well that it's also easy to argue that they don't do enough harm to be considered slurs.
  
  punk-ass bitch? sexy fuccboi? plant? bratwurst? nword when used by a PoC? Any of those?
based as hell
maybe consider (temporarily? permanently?) hiding vote-count on posts, to make it seem less dead in here. it doesn't matter how many votes a post has; it just matters whether it's higher or lower than others. for functional reasons, at least.
- I don't think that's a good idea. Also, it isn't dead in here by any measure
  
  @moss @gravelsDrachma If its appearance in my masto feed is any indication, it's quite busy! at least by lemmy standards
  
  i'm seeing nine posts in the last hour, and top rated post of all time at 680 upvotes, both figures being below 1/10th of what appear(ed) on the sub.
  
  that's by reddit measure, which is "a" measure, the only one most of us have for reference. i suggested upvote hiding because the reduced count may be discouraging.
  
  they are not bad in themselves, however: if i were, say, moderating this place, I'd say these numbers are too damn high because scary x3. and yes, they're high as hell for general lemmy standards; from everywhere I've looked, that's obvious.
  
  but the "Reddit perspective" is my reasoning for my suggestion, and i think those reasons will fade away anyway as people acclimate to these new figures, much like someone gets used to big numbers being normal on Japanese restaurant menus.
  
  thanks for running this place; i think you're doing a great job of saving some of this culture
- I've got vote counts hidden in my UI so things don't feel dead for me, it also helps me resist group think to a varying extent
  
  which UI?
- or we could just all stop caring about the vote count instead! why even pay attention to that? I'd honestly rather have two good comments on a post than 300 upvotes, or view counts, or whatever. couldn't care less about any of those.
  
  I know it’s really hard not to notice the votes on a post or comment, even though I’m not actually looking for it. I do agree with the person you’re replying to that it does make everything feel dead. I just have to regularly remind myself that this isn’t Reddit and the site is growing. Just startling tbh. Going to look at someone’s suggestion for UI that let’s you remove vote counts to see if that helps
Confirming here for Moss that I've changed user accounts.
- 👍
What's the situation with the lemmy community now that the subreddit is back open?
- Staying on Lemmy
- We're continuing on as normal
Hey @moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone - thanks for these!

Make sense to add a link to this post to the sidebar?

Proposed Text:

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

For 196’s community rules, see this stickied post
Spronkus Kronkus <3
oh thank god. finally, safe community. based af.
- appreciate the kind words
- Hitler wasn't a socialist, he just called himself one
How tf do you upload images on mobile? I’m on iOS, I’ve tried Firefox and chrome and get errors on both when trying to upload
- The system is having serious issues right now, the website seems to be fully booked. I recommend just using the jerboa app on your phone for now.
  
  It would appear jerboa is for android only?
Sorry, I'm new here - "saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad account" - what does this mean? TIA
- Those with accounts created on lemmygrad (an instance created specifically for tankies) are basically on probation. If they misbehave even a little they get kicked out.
  
  Ohh ok thanks, hadn't heard of lemmygrad
Didn't read the post byt veen a while since I have seen spronkus kronkus
posts that are so off topic that they don't fit on 196 at all

What is the topic? Is this like a de-facto meme community? I often used the subreddit to post things like media reccomendations and talk about random stuff without any images. Would that be allowed here? thanks in advance :]
- if there were to be a post that was, for example, "Chicago bulls pull dylan gongsworth from the minnesota rufflers, leading to widening predicted point gap" and it was like a photo of football, or a link to an article, we'd remove it.
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I've updated the rules to add moldy Mondays
Will I get banned if I leave without posting?
- nah
what's 196
- ueagh
westolefto comes to same conclusions as MLs lmfaooo
Stupid question but; where can I find the banlist? I haven't seen a link to it in the sidebar, nor this list

I have a fuckton of stupid memes I collected over be years and I kinda wanna post those, but I have no idea which memes are banned rn lmao

Edit: wait I found an explanation; https://lemmy.world/comment/185002

So basically the banlist rule is "don't repeat anything people said in the modlog", or something to that degree?
I've updated the rules to ban AI generated content
So how's the air on Langley AFB today
- I don't understand what you're saying. Can you explain yourself so I know whether or not you are insulting me
  
  I'm saying you glow so hard you can be observed from fucking orbit.
Not part of the community here just see you guys in All a lot, what is the reasoning behind having the word rule in all your posts? Just curious.
- Rule: you must post before you leave
  
  Maybe I'm stupid but I still don't understand.
- Rule
Can someone explain the no AI rule? I keep tripping over that one. @moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone
- No AI generated content, so no Midjourney, ChatGPT, etc.
  
  There are several reasons for this:
  
  It's low effort content that can drown out things people have put actual effort in (but that's not really a problem here since 99% is low effort shitposts anyway)
  
  Its training material is gathered without permission of the authors.
  
  It's wasteful in terms of energy and thus emissions
  
  Thanks. I couldn't wrap my head around it.
  
  I don't really agree, with the viewpoint, but I'll continue to try and be mindful of the stuff I post.
- fuck ai that's why
  
  I like the cut of your jib. Mod abuse Mondays need to make a return
based rules
- She can't keep getting away with it!!!
Do I have to post an image? Is the OP's image an example of what to do or what not to do?
- real question. I'm assuming from the name that you can say trans rights are important. killing Nazis here is cool right? like opening up the physical rack, pulling out the backup drive, and bludgeoning them with it inside the housing? or would that be a violation of tos with your hosting company? is it only okay to suggest shooting them? do I have to be clear its only okay to do outside the data center where youre hosted?
  
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Sounds like it’s becoming Reddit again. I’m out.
meow
Kill yourself
Sorry to bother you here, but I'm having trouble sending a private message. My posts aren't showing up but I think my comments are, and 196 is the only place it happens. I don't suppose there's any insight into this?
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Test
Ive been lurking here a bit and still have absolutely no idea what is going on in 196, so how are we to determine what counts as relevant to the community? (not a criticism, but an honest question)
~~Test comment to see if still unable~~ issues seems to have been worked out. Ignore.
Aren’t all statements prejudice? How can one even exist without judgement?
Why do you have mods who have advanced the claim that Jews deserved the Holocaust because "Communism is just as genocidal as Naziism" and it's really a tit-for-tat?
- Wtf no we don't. I'm the only actual mod and I'm JEWISH like
- Do I have to link to an article explaining that Double Genocide Theory was created by Nazis and their sympathizers to JUSTIFY the Holocaust after denial failed?
  
  https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory
  
  And was advanced by the Reagan Administration and America's fascist puppet-states in Eastern Europe, including Poland which deindustrialized and gave money to fascist militias to expel Jews without officially doing so?
- this water tastes poisoned