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I want to see the posts where they successfully crow about how well it worked. We're only seeing half the story here! Or maybe after they get their $5M, they are too busy spending their money to post?
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I had the privilege a few years back to see one of these fighting a traffic ticket in court. Guy tried a few, “I am not a citizen“ sovcit laws, then switched to constitutionalist as the judge was shutting him down. All in 3 minutes. I assure you, the judge told him the fine stands and would increase if he didn’t pay. He was calm about it and didn’t even qualify the sovcit arguments, but offered trial where he could present in court. All this over $73. Which would have been halved, had he agreed to pay today.
My dad got caught up in a variation of this in the 90s. He won the IRS award for “fuck around and find out”, by not paying taxes. They drained all bank accounts with his name, including my childhood savings - 25k from grandparents. Then he switched gears and the next 20 years he prepared for the end of the earth, with the next 10 battling hidden dementia and planning for a war because Obama was president.
Mental illness is a rough thing. It unlikely ends well for sovcit.
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Sorry to hear that about your dad. I've got two of those in our family, too. Well, my dad would be, but he was a cop himself once and is a staunch, practicing Christian and I think his ethos is founded on profound respect for authority - even if he doesn't agree with them. The one placed he breaks any laws is a tenancy to speed on rural roads. My MIL, on the other hand, is practically an anarchist, except not really; she just thinks she should be in charge, and everyone should be doing what she believes. She's the one with dementia, and even if I didn't think QAnon/OAnon weren't insane grifters, I will never forgive them for what they've done to her. She wouldn't be nearly so bad if she didn't consume that idiocy.
Dementia destroys families. It really helps if the person was diagnosed early and accepts the diagnosis and gets medication. Undiagnosed, or late diagnosis, of Alzheimer's and dementia is the worst case. Paranoia is a common symptom, and once they decided that it's not that they're not going crazy but that The System and their family is out to get them, it's just a living hell.
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Those posts do not exist lol.
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"Stop playing games."
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"I have the cheat codes to the government."
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In what form do they hope to collect their $5M? Do they want a receipt declaring it was deposited into their magic secret account or does like a silver coin cover the whole debt or whatever?
I trust that this packing slip with some upper-case song lyrics written at a 22° angle in green ink will settle our obligations of prima nocta.
--Sincerely, THE GOVERNMENT-
This sent me.
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I'll be looking for the update in 15 days. Lol
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I needed to read this twice and the comment of @sxan to understand what this was about...
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I still don't understand.
I get "I got a ticket whilst driving", I also get "artificial person" is something to do with the fact they believe that recording your details creates a form of slavery or something stupid like that.
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As far as I understand it, the screenshot is from a "sovereign citizen" which got a ticket for something. He is very smart because he filed a "countersuit" to the government to show he is subject to their laws and a citizen of the United States. If they do not do that within 15 days, my guy gets 5 million. He also wants a restraining order for all of the US police, so they can't get near him.
That's what I could make out with my limited knowledge about sovereign citizens and all that.
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A ticket while "traveling". Driving is something you need a license for, but they weren't doing that because magic words. Most of this is them justifying that they weren't driving because there is a difference between capitalized words and not, so they don't need a license to travel, but they got a ticket for it anyway, so they want justice.
And then yes, they think you can just declare a $5 million countersuit and win by default, as part of the "I'm so smart, you can't counter my flawless logic" delusion
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Or they are clearly a homunculus
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stop playing games
no u
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Maybe they think one day they’ll get a judge or magistrate that is intrigued by the sovcit stuff and just goes “hell yeah brother!”
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I have to imagine there are times they come across a bill collector or someone either doesn't know their job or just doesn't give a shit and lets them off the hook.
You're working at Comcast in the collections department, you're having a shitty day and an envelope full of legal looking papers comes across your desk saying to void a $300 bill? Fuck it, push the 'void' button and on to the next one, who cares.
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Dear sovcit, we, the government, do not consent to being "served" and invite you to prove that we are an artificial government in 15 days under U.S. 199. Article 4 section N part 9 paragraph 2333. Are we free to go?
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Who do they imagine is going to enforce any of this?
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I don’t think there’s necessarily a lot of logic involved in sovcit thinking 😂
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There's a law that if you sue the government and win, they don't have to pay you. Good luck getting your millions, lol.
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Traveling and driving are mutually exclusive in sovcit world when they need to be.
