Is non-sexual masochism a thing?
Is non-sexual masochism a thing?
This question randomly popped into my head some time ago. I haven't really found anything on Wikipedia relating to masochism outside of sex, but since sadism can be non-sexual, why could masochism be too?
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Absolutely. It could be argued that religious self-flagellation would fall under this category of non-sexual masochism.
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Isn't that more like a ritual? I mean, I don't think those people really enjoy the pain itself.
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CW: self-harm
I enjoyed self-harming and feeling pain when I was dissociating a lot, I think there are clearly examples where people inflict pain on themselves for non-sexual and non-religious (i.e. not for punitive / atoning) reasons. Besides some kinds of self-harm, eating spicy food seems like a clear example of this. Pain releases endorphins, you can get high on pain. For what it's worth, I also have enjoyed every physical trauma I have experienced (being hit by a car, being thrown over the handlebars of my bicycle at speed and my face hitting the asphalt first, etc.).
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If they're enjoying the ritual, is that a meaningful distinction between that and enjoying the pain? 🤔
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Loving Jesus a little too hard right there
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I would say that the pain and follow-up soreness from working hard at the gym feels amazing in a non-sexual way.
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I get your point but I hate the fact that my legs hurt so bad today. thinking of taking car today instead of a bike commute :D
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Progress more slowly.
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Kink and sex are different things, though often intertwined
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Exactly. There are some asexual kinksters as well as those kinksters who play with people who they are not sexually attracted too.
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People who cut themselves to feel anything at all?
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Thats a sign of mental problems
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oh shit ur right
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yesss
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Spicy food.
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I´m sure, that Linux memers here would tell you, that Windows users are such masochists.
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As a Linux user (btw) let me tell you, if anyone is masochistic it’s us. The amount of times I’ve gotten sidetracked for an hour fixing a problem that would be a non-issue on Windows is kind of depressing when assessed as a whole
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Yes, some of them even get a PhD.
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Lots of folks seem to have hobbies or put themselves through challenges that from the outside seem pretty masochistic. They generally claim they like the challenge, want to prove themselves or some other thing, but people who run the Marathon de Sable or swallow a Cessna light aircraft sure seem to gain pleasure from putting themselves through pain...
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I'm not endurance sportsman but I kind of feel like when I push myself beyond the comfort zone and it gets really hard, is when the activity gets the best. It stops being just a boring hike or whatever, and becomes more interesting and involved.
But it's not the pain I'm enjoying, but overcoming it, enduring through it. I'd think masochist would enjoy the pain itself?
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Fitness studio... Abstinence... Victim mentality...
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Okay, as someone who has been to a number of kink events, I'll ask, what would you consider sexual? I've seen people go heavy into sub space with zero genital stimulation. The subs I see generally play naked, but it's more about the psychological aspect of being exposed/removing barriers rather than tittilation.
Whether those subs would argue their experience was sexual or not? I think that really depends on the sub.
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Are you... arguing that something is only sexual if there's genital stimulation? I could give a shit what consenting adults do, but if you're at a "kink event", that's probably sexual.
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Yes. There are people harming themselves for fun...