Reddit @lemmy.world bitchkat @lemmy.world 9mo ago

I've had it with reddit

I think I finally reached my breaking point with reddit (about time). Earlier this month the humorless admins of /r/teslamotors banned me for posting a video of my custom charge port cover. A day or so later I mistakenly posted on the sub using my secondary account. That's on me. The /r/teslamotors admins gave me a permaban and reddit gave me 7 day site ban. I can take my lumps so whatever.

However, apparently I commented today on /r/teslamotors using the account that received the permaban. Dumbass reddit gave me another 7 day site ban for ban evasion. WTF? Either a software bug allowed me to comment or /r/teslamotors lifted my ban for some reason.

Neither of those constitute ban evasion IMHO. I'm also tired of using old.reddit.com in phone browser since they killed apis.

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I got banned simply for logging into the site with a VPN supposedly for ban evasion. I had never been banned previously.

You're not alone and it really is that pants-on-head dumb. They have so many users that it doesn't matter. They don't care if some legit users get banned.
- I got banned from pcmasterrace for mentioning the old precursor to hydrohomies. Seeing as how it contained the "n word", I took precaution to censor myself and use asterisks, "water******". I was banned just for insinuating the name of the subreddit. Nevermind the subreddit was good-natured, open and friendly to all (except soda drinkers). And of course the mod that banned me was was telling me bullshit in my appeal like "quit trying to be cute". What an asshole.
  
  Apparently there's very few actual mods, so they've all become jaded fuckasses who just automatically assume you're the most low down scum imaginable if you break the rules and appealing the ban is just you trying to get a platform to sea lion at them.
  
  I got permabanned for making a topically-relevant meme reference lol
  
  "quit trying to be cute" as if a powertripping mod should be allowed to have anything to say or do about people seeing your messages or not....
- Someone else using the VPN's gateway was banned, and reddit doesn't give a shit and just bans anyone who uses it.
  
  I know 2 people caught in VPN bans, neither of them had ever even received a warning before.
Yep. Bunch of silly ban-happy assholes in charge these days. I never even got so much as a warning on one account when it was suddenly permabanned. The comment that got me the ban? Agreeing with OP in a thread just like this that bans were getting out of hand…

And it’s happened to many, many others as well.

After the app protests, they basically put the shittiest, power tripping toadies in charge of a lot of subs, after the decent mods left or were kicked out. Well, fuck ‘em.
- They can suck dead donkey dicks.
- if ~~droids~~ Spez could think, there'd be none of us here.
  
  It doesn't matter to him. Have you ever seen the home page of snapshot? That's what he's going for.
  
  it's not like [human] Spez can think much either, so maybe that future is closer than we think.
  
  we're already seeing the results with Twitter, reddit's just a bit behind the curve.
Just browse it logged off on the old site on a desktop. Or better yet, stop visiting that website entirely.
- That's why I'm here! I scrubbed my comment and post history with Redact this morning. I'd like to think that will prevent them feeding my comments/posts into AI model but I wouldn't be surprised if they actually use the pre-scrubbed versions.
  
  I would bet that when they signed the deal to use Reddit user posts to train AI they either had already or at that time made a snapshot of everything that would have been considered the base state of the product. They also must have made backups at some point in Reddit's history that they could refer back to. Hell, they might upsell that in their training data as "Reddit Classic: Before the Diggpocalypse" and "Steve Huffman's modlog from that period of time that he was the moderator of /r/jailbait."
I got not only a permaban, but an IP ban for saying 'Punching nazis is a moral good' in a thread about people discussing how best to drive cars into crowds of peaceful protesters (with diagrams).

No one else in the thread got banned.

Fuck reddit, fascist shithole. Used to be the best site on the internet till the alt-right took over.
- I never thought that I'd be deleting my reddit account before facebook.
  
  You should delete your Facebook too
- What sub was that in?
  
  it was one of the 'dank' subs that I found browsing /new, not dankmemes but adjacent.
  
  /dankwolfpack or something
- I got a permaban for telling a Nazi to follow Hitler's example and shoot himself. Oopsie. 10/10 would do it again.
  
  (That's actually what triggered me to look for Reddit alternatives, years ago. Or rather the fact that they left my mod account unbanned, even banning all the others.)
. Earlier this month the humorless admins of /r/teslamotors banned me for posting a video of my custom charge port cover.

This was one of reddit mod's famous rando-bans. Something you could have never foreseen and a warning would have solved.

3rd time will be an admin permaban. This is part of the enshitification that mismanagement paid for.
- Here is what I think happened:
  
  subreddit banned account A for 30 days
  
  when I commented from a secondary account, it was perma-banned from the subreddit.
  
  reddit then site banned Account A for 7 days.
  
  I think the 30 day ban for Account A expired yesterday which allowed Account A to comment.
  
  reddit then issued another site ban on Account A due to ban evasion. But Account A's ban was for 30 days unlike the permaban which I think only applied to Account B.
I got permabanned for asking mods to do something about the shit posts that violate their rules.
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- Any system capable of growth will never be perfect. But it will be more resilient than a monolith.
  
  I think federated systems (and more broadly, open models in general) will be more successful in the long run.
- Its the same feel of reddit 5-10 years ago. Actually remembering local random users without them being news worthy is wild.
that's what drove me away too!
well it was a comment on worldnews, while it was getting pro-israel spammed...
i was temporarily banned... like 3 days... then i forgot while on another account, and on christmas they permanently banned both accounts... one of which was 18 years old
my comment that "circumvented the ban" was a very innocent pun... one sentence of just some super cheesy wordplay
....
appeals were denied without any explanation or human response.
and there's just no way to have a conversation with any human involved.
fuck reddit

meanwhile the place is crawling with sock puppets with 40 accounts, but they pay so they don't get banned.

i'm pretty sure they're just trying to purge way for the capitalists and their ipo
- Its sad because the ban of that 18 year old account wipes its ties to history off the internet if you didn't save it on your own. It is fucking brutal. Removing the ability to find your history like that should be a crime.
I had a 3 day ban earlier this month for my first bad report lmao. To me, it read as hate/violence, and I had been curious as to what was actionable vs. not. Had 5 reports sent, first 3 successfully acted against (blatant racism/calls for genocide etc.). First one that was flagged as bad got me a 3 day ban. The second bad report didn't seem to do anything but have a message sent my way.

Had a second ban recently and decided I was sick of fighting their garbage system. I had paused scrapping my 10 year old account due to a lot of the account tools breaking down, but I've found one that let's me alter all old posts and scrub them, so I've resumed that.

And now they want to sell the content of my old banned account while refusing me access lmao.
- They're banning for reporting now‽
  
  Yup. Not op but I sure did. It's an "abuse of the report feature" and bannable if an administrator thinks you're being too uppity.
  
  I made a habit of mass reporting all the very obvious spambots clogging up my favorite subs and that got me banned suddenly, with no warning, for report abuse. You're not allowed to interrupt their stream of fake bot traffic that drives up the valuation.
  
  No joke. Blew my mind.
  
  Just to be clear, I mean full on reddit account ban, not subreddit ban.
Guy on Reddit: Fat people are disgusting!
Me: the coolest people I know dont give a shit, they have better things to do than get upset that someone has a weight problem
Reddit guy: Your a loser!
Me: Get a life! You must be projecting your dissatisfaction with your own body.

Permabanned for harrassment. Didnt bother fighting it. Couldnt be happier, not enguaging with 50 thousand teenagers has helped my sanity
- Fighting it means zero anyway, I've never seen a siteban reversed. Ever.
Yeah people have been getting banned for all sorts of stupid reasons for nearly a year now. My friend got a site wide ban for calling someone a moron...in a story. It's beyond Amy sort of rationalization at this point, just let it rot. You won't be the last.
- Its been going on for longer than that. I haven't been able to post on /r/sports for years. They were supposed to reinstate everyone from the /r/AFL feud but mine is still banned.
Welcome to Lemmy! Fair warning, a vocal part of the user base here is anti-Tesla.
- Most are really anti-Musk.
  
  I'm not, so I guess I'll contribute to evening that population out now that I'm here.
- It's not like there aren't vocal anti-Elon/Tesla/EV people on reddit. I wanted an EV and didn't consider any other vehicle because of the range and charging network. My car is almost 5 years old and we'll see what's out there in another 5-10 years.
  
  Yeah, I saw that on Reddit too. It just seems like here there's a lot of people who jump on anyone for even wanting an EV here. A lot of folks think that bikes and public transportation are viable solutions for everyone's daily needs. It feels like a lot of people here think that since EVs aren't a perfect solution, that we shouldn't consider them at all.
- Most are wholesale anti-cars in general.
I remember being (temp) banned from the Signal subreddit for daring to discuss Telegram. Talk about group think. I never participated in that sub again.
I once got permabanned from r/eyeblech for posting a joke on there. I wasn't even the first one to do so. But I was able to appeal it.

For those who don't know, r/eyeblech was a gore subreddit. I posted a video of putting milk in the bowl first, then cereal. I guess that was way too far xD.
- Damn son, people have been tried in The Hague for less 🙀
- That is hilarious and the missing "a" in the subreddit name makes all the difference in the world.
Similar happened to me. I got banned from 2westerneurope4u and another mod unbanned me a few weeks later. So I commented again.

Permaban from Reddit for evading a ban.

Any time I created a new account it would be banned for ban evasion.

So I can't comment on Reddit unless I set up an account with a VPN.

Fuck all that.
- And then you probably need to do it on a separate browser that you've never logged in to reddit before. Rumor has it they are using device fingerprints to tie accounts together.
I got IP-banned for saying I'd lick the sweat out of a fat chick's folds. I think we can guess why the mod was angry
- This just made me cry laughing lol
- I got bbanned when i made a lame joke on a shitpost subreddit. I asked if i got banned for an unfunny joke. They replied that i got banned for being racist. I asked if he could explain wgat about this joke was racist. Then i was ip banned.
- I'm an old fat chick and I would have laughed at that.
leaving reddit due to bans is a bummer. leaving because reddit sucks is better.
How do they know you were using a secondary account?
- When you logout and login again, the tracking cookies are still present. Also, if you use the mobile app to login with multiple accounts, Reddit will mark those accounts as belonging to the same person. IP address is a factor but probably not as important because a large number of people share the same IP addresses these days thanks to cgnat and VPN.
- They track all that
- IP, MAC address, and several permacookies. Even clearing your cache doesn't help but formatting your entire computer, spoofing your MAC address, and getting a new IP address from your ISP does.
  
  The MAC address is only visible in the local network, so it's not visible to reddit if you're not directly locally connected to their server.
- most probably ip or MAC address.
- Apparently they are using browser/device fingerprinting as well. So any account I log in on from my browser will be linked together. Only way to potentially work around this is use a browser that has never been used to connect to reddit before. No using mobile app (which I don't use anyways)
It could be worse. You could've gotten banned by Horatio on Ars Technica's Battlefront forum for criticizing Microsoft. On a forum created specifically for criticizing operating systems.
They should just set whole reddit to read only mode and be done with it. They are banning people left and right for the dumbest things. Eventually people will just stop replying because fear on a ban. And that will be the end of it. It will have a digg death.
- Don't forget slashdot
Slowly deleting my Reddit post history…
- Instead of deleting it, flood it with Lorem Ipsum spam, give their AI buyers some 'real' quality content.
  
  AI generated hardcore furry fanfic is a good start.
  
  I scrubbed everything with Redact this morning. Some mods got butthurt because all the comment edits show up in their mod queue (a friend is a moderator on one sub)
  
  Late to the conversation by a week but there’s a planetside fanfic called spitty bae in which a woman has a very interesting encounter with a spitfire turret
  
  So here’s to hoping it picks that up
  
  I promise Reddit is not selling the production database and a first year data engineer will be able to use SQL to disregard lorem Ipsum posts anyway.
  
  3 rules could probably clean the whole thing. And it won't be the new employees processing the data.
  
  Basically if Loren Ipsum is encountered replace post data with last backup post that doesnt have it. I've worked with data engineers who could run the commands in their sleep.
  
  Even worse, maybe the database just contains every revision to a post anyway, making the project even more trivial.
Welcome!
I got banned from 10+ subreddits for replying to a comment on r/conservative.

Apparently these mods have a system which scrapes other unrelated subreddits and then ban any participants.

When I used to use Reddit I browsed by r/all and didn't take notice of the subreddit.
- Every sub that banned me for participating in another sub was a sub I had literally never heard of until getting their automod messages telling me I'm banned, and had less than 100 subscribers so, lol.
  
  Even funnier was they were likely seeing the 1 comment made on /r/conservative where they made a big announcement basically saying "this isn't an echo chamber. We don't know what to call it but it's like this [goes on to describe an echo chamber] " and I replied "so, an echo chamber?" Which of course was an instant ban to /r/conservative. And hilarious.
That actually sounds tolerant to me. Was banned from r/sinusitis for telling a mod that my ENT disagreed with what they said, then did the same thing- accidentally posted from an alt account answering a question-

Got perma-banned from Reddit entirely.
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I used to mod two pretty large subs (iirc something like a combined ~400k subscribers) and we had no way to detect ban evasion other than the user being stupid and obviously giving themselves away (eg. "fuck you mods, I'll just keep making new accounts"). This was fairly recently and I left the site and quit modding about a month after they pulled the API bullshit and booted Apollo and other apps.

So unless reddit added additional tools for mods, your story doesn't quite add up here.
- I've never been a mod but I can assure you this happened twice in the past month. And yes, I used to post from alternate accounts on /r/sports all the time since my primary account was banned years ago.
  
  Here is the email I received yesterday.
  
  Ah yeah that’s not a mod action. That’s a Reddit site-wide thing on the admin side of things or some automated system they have. Subreddit mods had nothing to do with that.
Lolol the mods here are way worse. Drama and defederation every few weeks lolol.
- Are you really not sick of this bit yet
  
  Wat?

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