Israel war

Oh, no ..

I donate to Doctors Without Borders.

looks at hands What have I done?!

Sorry but you are now Hamas
- It's illegal to diagnose someone with Hamas without a medical license. (Maybe that's why Israel keeps doing it?)
Do not be ashamed. There are still many doctors out there who have no border and you're doing your part to get them one. I think it's beautiful.

I make the analogy with North Korea. North Korea is obviously a threat to South Korea. But if South Korea were to start bombing North Korea and kill 250 people a day the question would be how long it would take for people to ask "Why are you doing this?"

This is going to likely get me called a tankie, but the civilian massacres South Korea didn't cause a blink to the US. They killed whole communities that had a communist insurgency in them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_South_Korea
- Why should the US be in any way involved in any of these?

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the zionist brain-rot is real

Not exclusive to zionists, any authoritarian regime actively discourages individual thought for people outside of radically out of touch leadership.

Fuck Israel

But they dropped a leaflet to tell the Palestinians they were going to bomb them so its k.

True.

argumentum ad populum

edit: ~~LOL i've never seen such butthurt from a simple link to a logical fallacy, which 100% applies in this case~~

thank you, @SmoothOperator@lemmy.world for the insight:

evidence gathering and following genocide evaluation can be much better performed by organizations with expertise and authority on such matters. Most of the listed organizations are considering expert evidence gatherers and experienced, empowered authorities of genocide evaluation.

expertise. authority. truth.

That’s incorrect, this isn’t talking about what the masses believe but what actual experts and legal scholars and courts are overwhelmingly saying. That fallacy doesn’t apply to a judge’s rulings.
- actual experts and legal scholars and courts are overwhelmingly saying.
  
  wow, "overwhelmingly saying" i guess what they say must be true then LOL
  
  argumentum ad populum
The majority of zionists believe killing children is a valid way to wage war so it must be true!
If anything, this would be an appeal to authority. It's not like the post is saying half of the American people believe it's genocide and therefore it is. No, the claim is that several relevant organizations like the ICC, ICJ, and Human Rights Watch, etc., are saying that it is genocide. That'd be like claiming that the vast majority of climate scientists believing in global warming is supporting evidence that global warming is likely true. It is. It's not enough evidence on its own, but it is evidence nonetheless.

That's the thing. Not all appeals to authority are fallacious. Supporting a claim with an expert's opinion is a logically sound way to support an argument.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
- thank you! i'll keep this on deck in case i ever make a fallacious argument
Okay
- lol got'em
Nope!
- LOL wow. were you president of the debate club in high school?

Fuck Israel and the Palestinians for being endlessly shitty to each other and dragging the whole gottdam world into their regional territorial dispute over and over for the better part of the last century. Fuck the whole lot of them together for perpetuating the most narcissistic conflict of the 20th century. Everyone's a victim and everyone's an aggressor and we are all supposed to dissect their long historical bullshit and form a moral opinion?! Fuck off and leave us all out of your fucking drama.

I voted you down because I think you are making a few errors here:

Not every Palestinian is Hamas. Hamas is a genocidal organization that wishes it could kill every Israeli, including civilians, but not every Palestinian believes in that. And not every Israeli agrees with IDF's genocide, although a disappointingly high proportion of them do.

IDF is clearly more successful in their genocide of Palestinians than Hamas is in their attempted genocide of Israelis.

Even if Hamas and IDF both were equal, a lot of the English-speaking Internet (including many Lemmings here) are Americans, and pay American taxes, and therefore have an obligation to stop the genocide funded by our taxes, through money and weapons the US government sends to Israel. Even if both sides were equally bad, we (I and other Americans) recognize the need to stop Israel, but have no obligation to stop Hamas because we aren't sending them the weapons in the first place.
- Hamas is a genocidal organization that wishes it could kill every Israeli
  
  Hamas is pretty careful to differentiate Jewish people, some of whom have lived in Palestine for millennia, and the Zionist project, which requires the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
- Good old Disagree button.
- Thank you for being one if the few that rip into Hamas at the same time as calling Israel out. I disagree on downvoting them as they contributed to the conversation, but points don't matter.
  
  On point 1, outside of a few extremists I don't think anyone considers all of Palestine to be a part of Hamas - its just how we talk.
  
  America isn't becoming a backwards, puritan and corrupt country - the Republicans are and they held the power. But we don't say that, we just say America is turning to shit. China doesn't have aggressive expansionist goals, the CCP does. Russia isn't a warmongering state, Putin and his running party are.
Palestinians in the West Bank recognized Israel in exchange for peace. 30 years later their land is still occupied and ethnically cleansed.

There is no two sides to this conflict.
I voted you down because you are a media manipulation account.
- What makes you say that
- I voted you down for being a media manipulation account