‘They are not safe’: Richmond Hill residents at traffic meeting want bike lanes installed this year removed immediately
‘They are not safe’: Richmond Hill residents at traffic meeting want bike lanes installed this year removed immediately
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/30050658
“They are not safe. They are anything but for safety,” said a woman who added vehicles in the two-block section sometimes drive in the middle of Springbrook to avoid the bollards.
Oh, so drivers behind of the wheel of an automobile are the danger. Why remove the bike lanes rather than the car lanes?
I heard that Etobicoke's NIMBYs are insane, but this is a new level of stupidity from Richmond Hill.
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Reading that the people were confused about bollards is astounding
Don't run into or over them and you're fine, if you feel you're going too fast for how close you are to them, slow down.
It's not rocket surgery
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And that style of plastic "bollard" barely even counts as a bollard.. You can drive right over them and they just break off/fall down.
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We need to add coloring in between the lines to the driving test.
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In NJ you are allowed to bump the curb when parallel parking but not allowed to go up on the curb. Getting bumped by a car hurts a lot.
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vehicles in the two-block section sometimes drive in the middle of Springbrook to avoid the bollards.
How about you get rid of your giant fuckass titan-sized SUV for a more reasonable car, and then you won't have to worry about being too fat-assed to fit?
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Or slow down to drive closer to the bollards more safely. But to be honest, our wide lanes have corrupted drivers, many don't feel comfortable or competent at all navigating their cars in tight spaces. I still know people who avoid revsering at all costs because they don't really know how to. Some of the driving i see in tighter areas like parking lots makes me question how the hell the driver even got a lisence.
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Some of the driving i see in tighter areas like parking lots makes me question how the hell the driver even got a lisence.
The practical portion of the test I took to get my license was a joke. You could take your test anywhere at at any time of the day so you could schedule the test for 10am in a sleepy town with very little traffic. They just had me drive around for a few minutes and then passed me. No zipper merging, no parallel parking, no reversing driving at all, no tight places and nothing challenging.
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There's a section of road near me that has plastic flag bollards down the middle of the road also, to prevent this behaviour
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It's only dangerous for the people on bikes because the people in cars drive like assholes, and of course those assholes don't want to accidentally kill someone. It might damage their car.
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So people were speeding on these roads. Only 1% of drivers obeyed the speed limits according to residents. But change is weird, and especially change that reminds us that cars aren't the only thing people use to get around the city, so let's only talk about removing the calming features and get back to our dangerous driving again!
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Protected by plastic bollards sounds like a false term/advertising. The folding plastic bollards wouldn't even stop a wheelbarrow, let alone a car. The bollards are about as effective at protecting as paint is. These bollards do however make the lane more visible. A better term might be something like "a bike lane designated by plastic bollards."
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Should be 2 meter wide grass with trees and nearly curbs on the car side.
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Ah, but the bollards can scratch the car paint and scratched paint is too high of a cost to pay to save lives /s.
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Car brained entitlement
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"They are not safe": pedestrians who enjoy bike lanes added this year want Richmond Hill residents at traffic meeting removed immediately
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"bollards"
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Bollards are solid. Usually metal or concrete. These are delineators.
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I call them flexi-posts.
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How about we have this changed to "‘They are not safe’: Richmond Hill residents at traffic meeting want car lanes installed this year removed immediately" because 'Fuck Cars'.
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In Ottawa, bike lanes mean nothing when cyclists keep on using the road instead of the fully segregated, paved, beautiful bike lane that runs right along the road... I still cannot understand what, presumably logical reason, they have for doing this
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Where I live, drivers continue to use the bike lane to turn right and for parking despite having a dedicated roadway. It kills and injures multiple people every year. The point being there are people who incorrectly use the existing infrastructure regardless of their mode of transport.
The difference is that bike routes in cities are incomplete and often have unsafe, pothole-riddled gutters with a painted line next to it as an excuse for infrastructure. People prioritise their safety even if that means not using a poorly designed bike lane.
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There are two sections on my commute where I take the road over the bike path. The first section is because the bike lane is so bumpy that I'd have to be on a mountain bike. It's actually insane and saves a ton of time and comfort to take the road. There's actually another benefit to taking the road at this spot though; there is almost no visibility for cars of the crosswalks over the bike lane due to a lot of trees so I'm way less likely to be ran over in the road than the bike lane crosswalks at this section.
The second section is on a quiet street with 3 lights in a row that are almost always green. And the cross walk sign is always red (button has to be pressed to get a walk sign). So three times in a row you have to wait a full light cycle while barely traveling any distance. It saves sooooo much time to just take the road (which has a painted bike lane) here.
Sometimes bikes also just need to turn left. Or the bike path is just on one side of the road and a persons destination isn't on that side
But no I'm sure the bikes around you just do it to annoy cars, or because they don't even want the bike infrastructure to begin with, or to feel less safe. Get out of here lol.
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None of what you claim takes place in the area I am referring to. And I do my best to give as much space and look after cyclist even though they seem to want to share the road but never respect road rules (like stop signs or red lights)
But sure, pointing out a reason why people who do not bike may not want to support bike lanes that even cyclists do not want to use, makes me the bad guy and I am immediately hit with a strawman accurately highlighting you just had no other way to turn this bad cyclist behaviour on me
Imagine if anyone came here claiming they ride the shoulder regularly because it's less bumpy and saves some time... then insult anyone asking why are people driving on the shoulder
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They must have a good reason because driving with entitled cars trying to murder you suuuucks.
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That's what I'm guessing and trying to understand. I bike too but casually and only for fun so not the same as people who commute on bikes
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There are bike lanes in my city that are designed in an unsafe manner. Prior to their installation, I would always take the full lane in these locations to avoid "right hooks". They are known to occur on certain stroads with horrifying regularity. So the city installed a bike lane with a small curb. Now I can no longer swing out and take the lane, and so I am left vulnerable every time I cross a driveway. Rather than have to slow down and look over my shoulder to make sure no one is going to kill me while I bike in the bike lane, I use the right motor lane.
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Where in Ottawa does this commonly happen?
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Could be that is just simply faster for them to use the road.
Or driving with cars around you is more predictable that pedestrians? That's the case for me, although I always use the bike lane where I can.
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Are those bike lanes 50 cm wide?
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