Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division | TechCrunch

We'll go back to gopher if we have to, it's time for burning chrome.

If Mozilla does become defunct, it does raise the question of whether Chrome would be considered a Google monopoly, and therefore subject to antitrust legislation.

I can't imagine any governments would look kindly upon internet access being guarded behind a single company's product.

If this Firefox trend continues, then we won't really have a choice in the matter anymore.

I've moved to Vivaldi recently and it's been refreshingly not-suck.

I’ll just use Safari

It's Mozilla. No one is going to see this anyway.

Why, what else happened today?

I brought it up with my family, my tech friends and coworkers and half the them just blankly stared at like I didn't know what was happening. Both are important, one more than the other though.

does a bear shit in your mouth?

consider one of the privacy-focused forks

The Foundation is not linked to Firefox.

Hundreds of selfies? Let's go ahead and strike that vein bullshit from the record.

This is more of a symptom the cause is the monopolization of the internet largely by Google

Unfortunately I don't think there's much Mozilla can do other than cut costs with it seeming like the Google funding will be getting severely hampered.

They can't get money from thin air.

Another Mozilla

It’s looking increasingly likely that the US Department of Justice is going to succeed in their antitrust efforts against Google. Currently, Mozilla gets something like 85% of their funding from Google for being the default search engine in Firefox. That may be deemed anticompetitive behavior by a judge, at which point Mozilla will be left with very little funding compared to their current situation.

I’d bet these actions are in anticipation of that happening.

Brave and Opera are both forks of Chromium that incorporate upstream changes. Firefox is an entire browser.

those are just rebranded chrome(ium). all browsers except firefox and safari are rebranded chromium or firefox. edit: there are some other projects but none are mature.

They use chromium.

Firefox does not.

The grand majority of software engineering effort goes into the browser development that they never have to work on for the most part.

Brave just tries to scam their users for money.

Like when they added "donate to the content creator" links on YouTube and such, then didn't actually give the money to the content creators.

Alongside what the other guy said, Opera definitely does have search engine deals, idk about brave since they launched their own. But brave has their own private advertising system

BTW, about Opera - the newest events with OpenAI and other stuff and Winamp devs not being prosecuted for GPL violations all lead me to one thought.

Are leaked Presto sources really-really illegal to use?

wouldn't it be nice if the profit motive wasn't the only driving force of the economy?

We are truly living in dark times.

Same. In the late 2000s or so my father knew ot so much about computers so some family friend set it up and he installed Firefox. I ve been using Firefox my whole life since. I tried switching to ungoogled chromeium, Brave and cromite on mobile but just can't. Like Firefox and its forks are in my muscle memory. It's over. I won't be able to use the internet anymore. Bye guys 👋

I wouldn't mind paying money for a good browser. I paid for Opera back in the day, and browsers are significantly more complex (and cost several orders of magnitude more to develop) now compared to back then.

There was a poll a while back on mastodon and the majority answered they'd be ok with 5$/year to support Firefox.

I get not wanting to use a google, microsoft or crypto laden browser, but I would be willing to use a well supported browser that used chromium as the page rendering engine. It seems to be extremely difficult to get another engine to be competitive in the marketplace. Maybe the resources would be better spent putting the chromium engine inside a different container. I’m sure there would be drawbacks, but I think there would be compatibility benefits too.

Not necessarily. If they're low on cash then cutting unnecessary costs is not unreasonable. What is Mozilla's core goal? Perhaps the "advocacy" and "global programs" divisions weren't all that relevant to it, and so their funding is better put elsewhere.

They're likely preparing for their funding from Google to be cut. Having a lot of money in the bank doesn't matter if your income is lower than expenses, since you'll run out of money eventually.

well you see. all the cool kids are laying off staff and Mozilla wants to hang out at their pool next summer.

I fear we will be left with only chrome to use.

Will, ungoogled-chromium (Windows version) is an thing. So we got that.

So, run Chromium?

I don't see why you'd choose Edge. And you don't need a VM to run it in Linux - there are Linux packages readily available.

Just turn the updates off. Might want to remove the seatbelts from your car too, so annoying having to put them on and take them off every time you need to drive somewhere.

lol what?

Well this is a unique take. But don't worry, there's a Firefox for you, too. Try the ESR, or Extended Support Release, it

receives major updates on average every 52 weeks with minor updates such as crash fixes, security fixes and policy updates as needed, but at least every four weeks.

This is not even about Firefox, you griefer.