Final phase for mass rape trial that has horrified France
Final phase for mass rape trial that has horrified France
Fifty-one men are on trial in a case that focuses on a formerly married couple, Dominique and Gisèle Pelicot.
Summary
France’s shocking “Affaire Mazan” trial is nearing its conclusion, with 51 men, including Dominique Pelicot, accused of raping his drugged, unconscious wife, Gisèle, between 2011 and 2020.
Dominique admitted to orchestrating the assaults, recruiting men online, and recording the crimes. While some defendants deny knowing she was unconscious, Dominique claims they were fully aware.
Gisèle waived her anonymity to inspire survivors and highlight issues like chemical submission.
The case has sparked national debates on consent and rape laws, with groups advocating legal reforms to align with societal views on consent.
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She’s an amazing woman. It must be so hard to go through this in private let alone with all this news coverage.
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Unbelievable resilience.
Reminds me of Emmitt tills mother who chose to have the open casket. Put in a position that would break many but instead use their circumstances to provoke change and draw attention to the monsters among us.
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Dunno what it's like in France, but if this was the US, this woman would be receiving daily death and rape threats from conservatives.
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Same in France. As do the people (mostly women ofc, most men are too busy explaining that "not all men") who publicly support her on the internet.
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Some defendants deny knowing she was unconscious?!
For anyone that doesn't know. Don't ever have sexual contact with another person without explicit consent from that other person. That consent cannot be given by someone else. Consent can be revoked at any moment, yes even while having sex. (of course this applies to adults. Underage people cannot ever give consent no matter what "God", culture, or laws say.)
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You dropped this: out
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Thanks.
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Just straight up "I thought I was committing a different crime".
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My only question is how to best handle children having sex with each other. Do you ban it / try to prevent it from happening at all? Do you set limits on how different they can be in age? Is there an even younger age when it's never ok but it's ok if they're both older AND of similar enough age? Is age not even the right way to do it and more importantly is there a better way? Should you have to pass a class where you can prove you know how to apply a condom and obtain consent from others??? I don't have any good answers to any of these questions but I do think they're important to ask and talk about. The more common discussion I wind up in is juvenile substance abuse (should you let kids do drugs as long as they're in your house so you can keep them safe? Are kids who are raised where everybody 14ish and older can have a glass of wine at the dinner table more or less likely to develop alcoholism due to the increased daily presence but decreased taboo?) but this discussion reuses a lot of the same concepts.
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Literally all those questions have been answered and studied by scientist and educators. No it's not a concensus answer but they mainly state, "You should give comprehensive sex education once puberty starts. (smaller more age appropriate conversations should be had about sex throughout a child's development) With an emphasis on absence as the safest way to avoid pregnancy, STDs and emotional harm. Respectful monitoring of teenagers activities and open access to contraception." (we've all mostly been there. With all the hormones and changes teens bodies are telling them to do something they are not fully mentally or physically able to do safely.)
Not everyone physically or mentally develop at the same rate and purely scientific measuring teens naturally should be experimenting with each other in some form of sexual contact until early adulthood. In which more emotional bounds are formed. Ideally women shouldn't be having kids until they are around 25 years old. Mentally and physically that's when their body is truly developed and ready to give offspring and themselves the best chances at survival.
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Who the fuck downvotes this?
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I initially had a typo in the first point that flipped it's meaning. So I'm sure this is a universal opinion for 99.999% of limmy users.
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More than just france. talk about a strong woman. that type of bravery Im hopin there is a statue to see of her at some point in a public area.
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None of those men are as strong as she is.
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Some people... what the fuck is wrong with them?
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That's horrendous.
