Special counsel Jack Smith drops election subversion case against Donald Trump

I mean, we all saw this coming.

It still feels weird that you can’t jail someone in 4 years even if you prove they are guilty.

Americans should be rioting in the streets, let him serve from jail.

Liberals fundamentally can't do anything about this. Not even if they cared. Which they do not.

No amount if proof matters, because the liberal horizon of action does not include any remedy to this problem. Like asking your homeopath to treat a gun shot wound.

Key detail: they're not dropping it because they're giving up, the judge dismissed it without prejudice, which means that in 4 years they can pick the case back up. Under a Trump DoJ the case would likely have ended with prejudice, closing it permanently.

Even more motivation for Trump to abolish term limits.
- He can't himself since it's spelled out in the constitution in the 22nd amendment.
  
  So tl;dr it would need 3/4 of the states to repeal that. More detail than that, but that's what it boils down to.
A distinction without a difference

Well, if there was any doubt there is one law for the rich & well connected, and an entirely different law for the 'plebes', this put that deep in the ground...

Someone should go rip that blindfold off of any 'Blind Justice' statues, it is just gaslighting at this point.

This is Smith seeing his hands tied because Trump ran out the clock and then enough assholes put him back in office where the Supreme Court and DOJ policy blocks him from being prosecuted for [at least] the next 4 years. It also states that come January 2029 he can refile charges on a then dementia ravaged 82 year old man.
- Lmao, thinking its still going to be legal to investigate trump in 4 years

I honestly can't be mad. America voted. If anyone has the audacity to be upset when America falls to lawlessness and didn't vote to punish trump i cannot be concerned.

Remember when rational people in 2020 said Biden was too old and did t have it in him to fight fascism?

And the DNC said the president doesn't matter (but still had to be Biden) it was about the people they appoint.

Well, Bidens picks were Smith and Garland, and a bunch of other people who couldn't get shit accomplished.

Everyone needs to remember how Biden worked out, because in four years the DNC will want to run someone just like him again. And if they do we're fucked

An election in four years … I like your optimism and I hope you are right.
- If it makes you feel any better, you'll likely live long for the DNC to say the same thing against the next 5 Republicans, and maybe even a Dem candidate will get a death bed endorsement from Trump while Eric Trump goes on a rally your with the Dem candidate talking about how much the Republicans have lost their way since 2016...
  
  Like, after Biden stepped down I told myself I'd vote D matter who like I always have. Because Biden had no shot in hell, and the DNC actually listened and I wanted to communicate that's all we've been begging for.
  
  But I remember GW, I remember Dick Cheney was the real problem and Lil Bush was just a distraction.
  
  But Kamala still trotted Liz Cheney around, acted like her dad isn't the biggest US war criminal in modern history, and tried to act like Trump was solitarily the one responsible. I still voted for her. But it ended up being harder than voting Hillary.
  
  trump can drop dead as I'm typing this and not a damn thing will change.
  
  I've lived through this series of events before. The vast majority of Americans have.
  
  It's going to suck and we're going to lose ground, but there isn't a cat wrangler alive that can get republicans to agree and work with themselves.
  
  They'll lose the House/Senate in two years. Maybe one, maybe both. But they won't get anything accomplished and they do t have anyone else to blame to motivate their voters in midterms.
  
  They're going to have to eat that they got trump, the House, and Senate, and sure as shit aren't going to fix what they told voters they'd fix.
  
  Stop saying the fight is over because neo liberals didn't get everything they wanted.
  
  Start working on fighting our own party next primary so we have a chance of getting what America needs. If another neoliberal gets into the general, hold your nose and hope enough other people do too to mitigate damage.
  
  Regardless of anything that happens, giving up is never going to work.
  
  Fight every fight like it's the last, and no matter what happens treat the next one the same. This is what fighting fascism actually looks like, not voting once every four years.
You can't lay that on Smith. He accomplished a lot. But, no surprise, a Trump judge derailed it.
Bullshit. The DNC said nothing. Biden wiped the floor with every other candidate in that primary fair and square. Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn't be assed to come out.
- Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn’t be assed to come out.
  
  Absolutely this.
  
  Old-ass biden wins primaries because the only people who could be bothered to vote in ANY election that isn't just the general election, are other old people. They vote for the people most like them, fellow old people...
- If you are told to vote between a rock and four piles of fresh dog poop you are obviously going to vote for the rock.
  
  The DNC is at fault for making the voters choose between a rock and four piles of fresh dog poop.
Why is it that every time Trump gets away with corruption you try to turn it into FUD towards democrats?
- It's chronic with that user. The Boost app allows you to tag usernames and it's very helpful for tracking bad faith accounts.
- How can you witness the DNC lose two elections and barely win another by razor-thin margins during a time of unprecedented turmoil and think the party is doing well or above reproach?
  
  All you're doing here is an ad hominem against the messenger and failing to give a single reason why you think their argument is wrong.
  
  Trump got away with corruption because the DNC dragged their feet on pursuing charges until the 11th hour and now it's too late. That seems like a damn good reason to criticize the people leading the party.
- Because the DNC is not blameless, and while we can't control Trump or his followers, the DNC is something we (should) have control over. Being critical of the things we have control over is literally the only way to improve them.
  
  And for the record, DNC != Democrats. The person you are responding to is being critical of the DNC, not democrats. That is a very important distinction.
  
  Also did you just link to the wiki article on FUD as though people might not know what you're referring to?

Legal justice has become a pipedream. The only options with any real chance of happening are vigilante justice or no justice.

Vigilante Justice isn't really justice tho.

He's just gonna get famous for getting "Assassinated".

He needs to rot in prison and die there so his name is tainted forever.
- Agreed, but I don't see that happening in the absence of a legal justice system.
- Do you have realistic ideas on how to make that happen?
- The system is not your friend. Its goal is the preservation of power and stratification of society. Thats what it does, thats what its for.
  
  Right now, he's power, and stratifying admirably. The courts and their bloody enforcers belong to him, or people like him.
Always was.

Well, community and restorative, but our society still sees those as equally/more objectionable than vigilante.

Biden should have sent Seal Tim Six to Mar-A-Lago

. “This outcome is not based on the merits or strength of the case against the defendant.”

We know, but we also know that Trump and his sycophants will use the argument that Trump "won" and it was baseless, political persecution, etc.

The not prosecuting a sitting president is a shitty policy written to avoid baseless lawsuits and applied to help fascists rise to power.
- Its a practical issue. Sure, you can can throw the president in jail. But they are still president. They can totally call the military to break them out.
The way I see this, they are stopping the proceedings so Trump's AG won't be able to end them officially, so they might be able to resume in four years.
Why are you afraid to admit trump won? Can you still not see democrats lost the election? They were the ones we put our faith in and they came up short, again.

Let's be clear here. The blame doesn't go to the campaign. The blame doesn't go to the voters. The blame is squarely on leadership for not leading. Which leadership? Any one with D after their name that wasn't on the streets raising hell the last 4 years. Anyone with a D after their name who cashed their government funded check and never thought about how most Americans make fractions what they do and they can barely get by.

No this is a top down failure. The party wants so badly wants to be the GOP they will settle for letting the GOP win.
- I don't think the person you are responding to is talking about Trump winning the election like you are. Unless I am misunderstanding, it sounds like they are saying that Republicans will point to this case being dropped as a win and that they were right all along. In other words, they will say that the Democrats were just unfairly trying to prosecute Trump, and dropping the case proves they had no evidence (even though that isn't why the case was dropped).
- Bro what the hell are you talking about. This is about the outcome of the election subversion case (which was 2020), not the outcome of the election (2024).

At least it's a dismissal without prejudice which leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office and as long as the statute of limitation hasn't run out.

leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office

Assuming his lard-ass lives that long.
You know how the courts love putting rich old white dudes behind bars, right?

Assuming of course we don’t end up with a Republican dictatorship after this presidency, then it’s all meaningless anyway.
A glimmer of hope, but at least, of the extremely limited options, this one leaves a shred of hope behind.

Still fucking awful and a complete condemnation of the justice system in the US, but POC in the States have known that for years, now it's just whitey getting shown how fucking biased it is to privilege and wealth.
- A lot of us whiteys already knew
I can't say I'm feeling overly optimistic about anything worthwhile happening with this case after 9 years, when they failed to move forward in nearly 5
- How is "less than 4" now "nearly 5"?
Until Trump’s DOJ decides to re-dismiss with prejudice.
- That can only be done if the case is presented again. You can't dismiss something that doesn't exist.
Who's going to revive a 10 year old political case against an 83 year old that's retiring from politics? In the US?
Lol he's dead by then. Are we puting a dead person on trial?
Who is going to stop Trump from pardoning himself?
- He cannot pardon himself on a dismissed case.
- Jack Smith, apparently.

Feckless.

I want this to be literally the only word on Merrick Garlands Wikipedia page.
Its not Jack Smith's fault, that's on the American voters. Well that and Merrick Garland

Fucking pussy

Leave my boy Jack Smith alone. He tried, the American voters failed him.
- The American voters failed humanity.
I dont think you understand the situation.
The DOJ cannot try a sitting president as matter of policy. If he continued the trial against policy then there is a good chance more judge delays and stays push it out until trump is president and he makes it go away, especially if he gets it dismissed with prejudice. If he drops it now it has the chance to be re-tried again when trump ~~peacefully gives up power~~ leaves office in 4 years time.

Legal eagle on youtube did a whole video explaining the situation in depth if you want a qualified explanation.