When President-elect Donald Trump said Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy would recommend major cuts to the federal government in his administration, many public employees knew that their jobs could be on the line.
This is vile. These are non-elected positions and the people who hold them are doing a job the government asked them to do.
You can complain about the positions but you do not attack people personally over it. Especially if your followers are as stupid and dangerous as musk's.
Incel King's got priorities: start with all the women who said no.
It's sickening. I just read about the professor who had to leave her job and home after he sicced his deplorable fanbois on her all because she was critical of Tesla's driver-assist.
Cummings said she already knows of federal employees who “have dedicated their lives to civil service,” already quitting their jobs in anticipation of what’s to come.
“He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working,” she said.
CNN reached out to multiple experts and academics who specialize in cyber harassment, doxing and online abuse. But several declined to comment on the record for fear of themselves becoming Musk’s targets.
Professionals too afraid to speak about their area of expertise. Public servants quitting because they know what's coming for them. And Trump's not even started his second run yet.
Screw them and hold on to your job for as long and as hard as you can.
Sure one person fighting is nothing to a billionaire .... but a few thousand employees taking the government to court for this stupidity will definitely affect the billionaire.
Authoritarianism wins as soon as we all just give up and allow them to take control.
Over half of federal workers are unionized so if Elmo fucks around too much, he just may find out. Many government workers are getting below market rates in exchange for good benefits, security and some sense of helping the commonwealth. They did not sign up for dealing with this chucklefuck. Replacing a bunch of sysadmins, accountants, lawyers and scientists at government pay levels would be challenging.
Thats the trick… They don’t intend to replace them. This is a thinly disguised austerity measure, intended to cripple agencies to later “show” their ineffectiveness.
Court costs and being out of work are both fun. But, as it turns out, personal justice is way less important than the food/clothing/shelter triumvirate the money can fund instead of legal fights.
No one understands this part. We had the largest demonstrations of my 30 years of life during the pandemic of all things....why? Because everyone was getting government stipends to stay home from work and people had time to fight for what's right instead of putting food on the table and keeping a roof over their heads.
Yeah I think that's the frustrating part of this. Either allow elonjet back or get banned for doing this. But having it both ways shows how shit a person Elon Musk is.
If anyone asks, to me, it's THIS aspect of it that's the big problem. Musk is literally doing the thing that he hated about elonjet.
He's always been a hypocrite and entirely untrustworthy. If you believe he is doing ANYTHING in good faith, it's kind of on you at this point. If people stopped interacting with these fucking musk articles we wouldnt see them every 2 seconds.
We destroyed public education half a century ago to cut the oligarchs taxes.
Half of our public still thinks giving the oligarchs the remaining crumbs they can no longer make corporate landlord rent with will somehow be urinated back on them as prosperity.
Our public can't learn.
The ideal laborers. You can exploit them until they're bruised and bleeding, then then just point at the powerless, starving, dying homeless person on the sidewalk and say they did it and you should hate them for it. Problem solved.
This from the guy who smoked weed on the Joe Rogan p;dcast, talked about how he does ketamine at parties, and has been talking to Pootles for the last year, all while having a security clearance. Yeah
DOGE isn't an actual department with any power, as it wasn't created by an act of Congress. I guess Elon's power will just be telling Trump who to fire?
Im hoping when the time comes to actually create the department someone will inform Trump that's not really something he can do, and Trump will just shrug and forget about it, while Musk starts crying in the corner.
Honestly, I’m half expecting some disenfranchised kid to learn from the Ukrainian conflict, and take one of these muppets out with a drone. It’s pretty tricky to shoot even as large a target as trump with his security cordon, but this pillock wanders around in public, and it really would be pretty ironic for someone to live-stream the tech-daddy moron getting fpv’d into a fine paste
I was kind of thinking the same thing lately. Trump hides behind bulletproof glass now, but he's not completely surrounded and certainly doesn't have a top on it. People have made bombs out of common household chemicals in the past and performance drones with a fairly long signal range are commercially available to everyone. Would be pretty easy for someone with a bit of ingenuity or craftiness to possibly take him out . I'm actually surprised nobody has tried that yet which leads me to believe they have some kind of signal jamming technology to prevent that exact scenario.
I watched a video by Botgrinder on YouTube called “you can’t mini whoop the president” or something similar, where he was messing about with an fpv drone at a Kamala rally. Turns out that the Secret Service won’t let you buzz her with a small drone for fun, and if you stand around in fpv goggles they’ll come and give you some grief. He wrote a very funny ai country song about it, worth a watch.
However, he didn’t say much about jamming, it was being stood about in the goggles that got him I think. I’d assume that the Secret Service’s jamming is a fair bit better than the Russian’s, but the way the Ukrainian drones have been dealing with that shows that jamming only does so much - if the drone is falling toward the target on an essentially ballistic trajectory, jamming it won’t do jack
As the IRA famously put out once, you have to get lucky every time we have to get lucky once. Its one of those things where if enough people keep trying and improving they will find a chink in the defenses. I suspect it will probably be seen first with either Musk or one of Trumps other toadies.
Honestly fuck federal workers as a whole. I spent 6 months working under the USCG through DHS and every single last civilian worker was either a nepotism hire, married to a service member and got handed the job, outright incompetent, or some combination of the 3. Trying to get in touch with ANYONE from HR was a 2 week wait minimum to answer the most basic questions, and it's a coin flip whether the answer you got was even relevant to what you originally asked. I have never worked with a lazier bunch of entitled shitbags as I have in federal employment.
Don’t like him and not sure how well this is gonna work out BUT there are too many useless people in government jobs in a lot of countries and with their work ethic they often couldn’t hold jobs in the more competitive free market so I agree with the core principle of what they want to do, but I am sure the approach will be total ass.
Yes, there is a shit ton of dead weight in the government contractor sector, just soaking up that delicious tax money for minimal effort. But I have a feeling these aren’t the employees being targeted right now.
That'd be cutting federal contracts. I read the headline as dealing with people employed directly by the federal government, not indirectly hired through private companies.
I am you that it'd be a much better way to cut fat from the budget.
The problems in government are structural and systematic, not individual. The bureaucracy was built into what it is through the accumulation of regulations, poorly implemented policies and agendas, as well as plain mismanagement. Likewise, when the cost of a failed project is a political shitstorm and a parliamentary enquiry, and beyond that you are expected to be entirely accountable and transparent, you need to be risk averse.
You can't just fix these issues by proclaiming to fire everyone. You need to fix structural and leadership problems.
We just those useless folks Congress. But, seriously we can't let a few lazies clogging up the works be the reason to allow Republicans to continue destroying our institutions.
Malicious compliance. Do what you're told, exactly what you're told, no more, no less. Have you been doing "something" that nobody has told you to do, that's outside of your job description? Stop doing that thing.
Make sure you take your time. Don't hurry. Haste burns you out, stop it. Do not start working before the start of your day, and do not work past the end of it. If you are doing this, you are enabling wage theft. Go home, your time belongs to you.
Don't quit. Government workers are entitled to more recourse than normal employees if they are going to be fired. Usually you can't just fire them for no reason.
Quitting would also prevent severance pay.
Sue for defamation. He called your work "fake jobs". Now his followers are threatening your life.
They're working class people and the job market is shit. "Just quit" is a much bigger statement when you don't have another job lined up and have bills to pay.
Not sure if you haven't noticed somehow... that's exactly what the Republican party campaigns on and has been doing for the past 60+ years.
They literally campaign on the idea that Government does not work. They get into office, then don't do the job well, proving that it doesn't work well. All while reducing funding and cutting programs until they fail. People that actually know what they're doing leaving just helps them.
Trump wants to kill branches, then show why they were made by their absence.
They don't want any of those programs or services, because they don't give a shit about them. The wealthy don't care about public education, their kids go to private schools. An educated workforce is harder to control. Critical thinking is a threat to propaganda. They don't care about you wiling situation as long as they keep their quality of life at the top, which just requires money, which they make through indirect means off the back of everyday workers in destitution. They'd rather you be in jail for a bullshit offense where slave labor is literally still legal. Don't have to pay the inmates.
The programs they want still get plenty of funding and are in no danger. Things like the military and anything that can support the wealthy who don't need it.
So quit. You provide a valuable service. Don't do it anymore.
That's what Musk is trying to do. Intimidate folks into quitting. So you're just basically saying let Elon do the thing Elon wants to do.
If Govt services cease to function they fail
Yeah, that's not the outcome anyone should want. When a function fails, we can't just pop it back up when Trump isn't President again. I had to go over this with the Trump term one tariffs. The reason Biden didn't do away with them is because we violated the trade agreement to implement them. Once we violated the agreement, it doesn't matter anymore what anyone does. It's not fixable anymore. We have to go through decades worth of regaining political favor with the foreign country to repair it.
Same thing here. When the service fails, we can't just pop it back up once Trump is no longer in office. If people start to hurt because a function fails, those people are going to be hurting for decades while we try to repair the damage. It's one of those stack of cups kind of thing. It takes a significant amount of time to stack the cups compared to the half a second it takes to knock them all down.
then show why they were made by their absence
All that's saying is that the next two decades should be complete shit for everyone except the insanely wealthy. I would rather not have that lesson, I don't think it's required. I also don't think a lot of people would even learn the lesson even if they experienced it first hand.
That's exactly what they want and I guarantee they will make it difficult for most employees so they do quit. An employee that quits on his own is a lot less expensive to the company then a fired one.
A indefinite strike until musk is fired from his position in the goverment however...
That’s exactly what they want and I guarantee they will make it difficult for most employees so they do quit.
They've already explained that as their strategy... first thing they are targetting is removing remote work? Why, because they know some people don't want to work in the office, and that's a good way to get a lot of them to quit.