What is the difference between lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works?

And what would you do if dbzer0 defederates with dbzer0????

..........wait.......that's not right......

I don't know if I would agree with that assessment entirely, yes Lemmy.world has the same starting Jerk to not jerk ratio. However on Lemmy.world the amount of jerks who aren't banned is higher than instances like blahaj.zone, dbzer0, or pawb.social. So there are more jerks on Lemmy.world, not because it attracts more jerks or has more users but also because it doesn't ban them as often as other instances do.

I'm using jerk kind of loosely but I'll clarify because people will think I'm trying to say someone should be banned for a rude moment but I'm not. When I say jerk, what I really mean is alt-right troll, transphobe, sealioner, climate-denier, etc. Someone who isn't obvious enough to be caught as a spammer would but who is still bad for the community.

Stop calling jerks jerks, you're being a jerk! /s

The extra jerks on Lemmy world create more content so the mean jerk time is greater

Fwiw, LW seems ready to defederate from Threads at a moment's notice (post), but atm it doesn't matter since Threads isn't federating with Lemmy anyway.

Though it's still an excellent point to wonder why they haven't done it preemptively, like pretty much every other instance I've heard of (even lemm.ee's [blocked instance list[(https://lemm.ee/instances) that is shockingly short has that one). Perhaps bc the decision to defederate from any instance, and especially that one, has generated such negative feedback (as the post linked above mentions), they are hesitant to do anything at all, especially again while it does not matter right now.

Says the person who has massive amounts of Antisemitic hatred and are quite happy to full on blow Putin's dick whilst spouting his propaganda I'm not shocked you're being called a Tankie

They never mentioned you or slrpnk

There's a difference between being a socialist, and blindly defending authoritarian regimes that claim they are socialist. Those instances earned their reputation for a reason.

There's a huge difference between a tankie and a socialist:

• Socialist supports economic policy aimed at just distribution of resources
• Tankie supports fascist-like authoritarianism under a mask of socialism

It's fair to call people who white-wash authoritarianism, genocide and roleplay as communists tankies.

This is not a matter of different opinions. They openly support the russian invasion, the atrocities of the russian occupation and reject Ukrainian identity and self-determination.

It's the literal definition of the word.

we all get the same content anyways, aside from defederation?

We don't, though. We get whatever content people on our chosen instance have subscribed to. Even without blanket server bans, there are Lemmy-based websites that your host has never heard of, hosting content you do not have access to. Someone from your server has to introduce those sites, and subscribe to the communities on those sites, for your server to have their content.

The fediverse is subscription based. Shit doesn't get sent around unless it's specifically asked for.

it really doesn’t. those that make it about server handles are the reason movements fail, like get over yourself, ppl! hexbear came @ me pretty hard for my instance. fuck em.

Your account may be banned by the admins if they don't like you. If it's on your home instance, you lose the entire account. That's why it's important to create your account on a trustworthy instance (or host your own).

It doesn't, except for the ones who like to browse local. And the .world admins have quite a few blocked instances. They seem to be a bit too liberal in defederating to my tastes. I feel as if it runs against the concept of federation itself.

You’ll miss out on the Beehaw community

Beehaw seems completetly dead to me, there's only ever a handful of comments on posts.

If you consider lemmy.ml and hexbear.net "most extreme" then sure.

Beehaw is not worth the effort. Their audience is way too sensitive to participate with any reasonable level of social interaction. You will live on eggshells if you wish to participate there,

For the record, I just added hexbear to the sjw blocklist.

They use an allowlist and they previously removed us from it, so we were effectively defederated already for most of the past year. But it seems that they may have refederated with us silently within the past couple weeks. I'm not exactly sure.

Anyway, I've heard this rumor about us still being federated with hexbear a few times, so I decided to clarify the situation.

@Addition@sh.itjust.works

Also note that "blocking" it doesn't actually "block" much of anything at all - it stops you from seeing the communities located on that instance, but the users will still appear in posts all across the Fediverse, sending their harassing messages to you, pinging your Notifications every time they reply to you, downvoting your own comments, etc. The instance block function is horribly misnamed.

If you want to avoid this kind of thing, I second that recommendation to try Lemmy.cafe - it is the only Lemmy instance that defederates from the Big 3: hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and Lemmy.ml. The latter one is like 1000x easier to deal with than hexbear, yet still nearly all of the most batshit insane comments I've received on Lemmy after defederating from the other two have come from it - and for similar reasons that they get used to how things work inside their echo chamber, and then behave the same way when they venture outside of it - so I consider having defederated from it too worthwhile overall. Although you will miss out on some content such as !Firefox@lemmy.ml that way.

You just wanted a pepsi! And they wouldn't give it to you!

https://sh.itjust.works/c/noncredibledefense. They could bother to give me a reason.

A pleasure.

lmao you should add me too, I hate having libs, racists, and bigots reading my posts