Samsung sees 95% drop in profits for a second consecutive quarter

mine can take an sd card, but only if i take out one of my sim cards, of course

That pisses me off the most

I got an A52 just for that reason. Still using it. I wanted a S20 but they were sold out and I was told they stopped making it.

Internal storage on phones is over 200gb by now. I havent needed an SD for years. What the fuck do you store on your phone that could still need an SD? lmao

Mine is actually very easily removable. The device overheats so much, that it's completely annihilated the glue, and now the back panel is only held down by the case c:

It should be back in 2027 in EU at least

That's supposed to be coming back by EU law in the next few years. So we have that at least.

no, i am talking about phones. this stuff used to actually be in phones

Samsung Note 10 and others have a barometric sensor, though I'm not aware of any app using them. Which might explain their removal, sadly.

Air pressure is (was?l in pretty much any phone.

Pointless unintuitive feature that’s replaced with simple press and hold.

Unintuitive for you, perhaps. I found it more intuitive than the press and hold (until it became ubiquitous), since it made more sense for a preview. Press and hold, in my mind, is more for secondary menus and alternative options, like mass-selecting.

The air gestures were also nice if I had my hands full, since they worked without turning the screen on, and without touching it, although they leaned more heavily on the gimmick side of things.

Slow and unreliable compared to fingerprints. Anyone actually used it?

Yes. I use it a lot when I have my phone on a stand, or when I have gloves on. Fingerprint readers don't work through gloves, for obvious reasons, and it's less effort than having to fumble around with my phone and my gloves, especially when I will be putting the glove back on afterwards.

Since my phone also has the fingerprint reader on the back, rather than the front, it also makes it much easier to unlock my phone without picking it up, which is nice when it's on its wireless charging pad, or I want to quickly check a notification or something, rather than needing to pick it up.

As for speed, I've not found it that much worse than the fingerprint, especially once the camera's fired up. The hard part tends to be aligning yourself just right, and that you need to tap a "confirm" button compared to the one-click that fingerprint does.

Who needs these things? Weather apps work just fine. Rather use the space for battery.

The space won't be used for battery. It's a small chip on the PCB, and Samsung would either keep it around for other sensors, or would leave that space blank. Having a tiny battery protrusion like that is silly anyway. Having a little dingle like that would just make the battery more likely to be damaged and erupt into a violent conflagration.

I personally found it handy, even if it was underutilised. Sometimes you want information from within the house, not outside of it, and if your phone can fetch that information and present it, you don't need to go and buy a separate hygrometer and air pressure sensor, and carry it around, or have to feed that information via an external service.

Unless you’re looking to vandalize public tvs, just replace it with any number of wifi/bluetooth remotes.

Assuming that your TV comes with support for those. If it doesn't, such as if it's an older television, then you would be out of luck.

Personally, I used mine a bunch back in the day, just because it was nice to be able to fire up the VCR, Amplifier, and TV all in one button, rather than a bundle of loose remotes, but that's more of a first world problem, and less of an issue these days, since television is on the decline.

More importantly, though, the phones aren't cheaper despite the loss of these features. The phones just get more expensive, even though they had fewer sensors and features like that.

Found the Samsung fuck boy

The point is that technology isn't supposed to get in the way of us doing things and that's exactly what removing features that are useful to people does.

Counterpoint: phones like Redmi 9T have it all. Headphone jack, expandable storage, IR blaster, NFC... Also manages to have an "okay" battery capacity that's 6Ah.

The only problem is it costs too little so people don't consider it.

Slow and unreliable compared to fingerprints. Anyone actually used it?

Hadn't had a Samsung back then, but I would love to.

Air pressure/humidity sensor

I'd love those.

IR blaster

It's still very useful, I used it regularly on my older phone.

Software updates are the problem unfortunately

My Galaxy S10 is on its 5th year I think. Really had no issues with it, even the battery. Only showing signs of slowdown this year.

Granted, I run my phone on 720p and constant battery saver lol

I couldn't agree more. I have a Zfold 2 that I've had since launch (3 years) and I look at the phones on offer now that I have an upgrade available and I see no reason to upgrade to a new phone for a marginally better camera and processor, there hasn't been enough innovation in mobile tech in that time to warrant paying another £1000+ over another 3 years, I'll rock this phone phone until it dies the same way I did my Note 9.

Phones just went through the same thing PCs went through twenty five years ago.

Yeah, I've had my LG G8 for four years now and I'm just starting to look for replacements. Unfortunately the G8 is known for the battery being very hard to replace or I would be looking into a battery replacement service instead to get a couple more years of useful life.

You'd be correct!

Government. Not liberals or conservatives, but the government as a whole. Canada has had many years where both liberal and conservatives were in charge, and nothing changed.

Canada doesn't allow competition. We have 3 main internet providers, 3 main phone plan providers, like 2 grocery store chains, a couple airlines, etc.

When other companies attempt to come in to break up monopolies, they lobby, and get them shut down.

I mean where are we going to go? America isn't really an alternative, as much as Americans think it is. Our healthcare, gun laws, etc are things that make Canada really good. We could move to some European or Scandinavian country, but that's not as easy as it sounds, especially when you need to learn a new language, get accepted, move your entire life, and live in such a different culture.

So people in Canada just accept it. Maybe one day monopolies will be broken up, but there are no parties that are going to do that now. Left or right leaning.

The Economist explains it well in their article Australia and Canada are one economy—with one set of flaws. The competition regulators in both Australia and Canada aren’t doing their job, allowing oligopolies to form.

It’s a type of endemic corruption and Transparency International should start calling it out.

https://www.economist.com/business/2023/06/01/australia-and-canada-are-one-economy-with-one-set-of-flaws

It's big and cold. How much food do you think grows there? There's actually plenty of cheap land but people like to live with other people.

If you don't want modern conveniences, I bet it's cheap. I bet you can live off of potatoes and chicken for like $0.

Sounds like Singapore.

Good phones are still $400. They just have this ridiculous tier now that is even higher

Good phones used to be around 400, taking me a few days to think about it and say yes. Now they are beyond 1000

I'm not sure what you mean by a "good" phone. Like yeah, they came up a bit. A Pixel 7a costs $499, and if one wants wireless charging and a better camera they can go with the Pixel 7 for $599. Regular non-Pro iPhones are around the same price.

Like yeah, folding phones are well over $1,000 in most cases, but personally I think that's a gimmick, my hot take. But for me and 99% of the people I know, we're sticking with our slab smartphones.

I bought a m52 a while ago on a black friday promotion or something like that for 280. It's the most expensive phone I ever bought (usially i try to stay under 200). I know that for some that is peanuts, but I have it hard to justify spending so much money on a phone. 1000 for a phone is something I would never be able to do. The thing I do like about it is the quality of the photos and the ease to connect with my wireless buds.

Even my iPad keyboard (the folio from Apple) “only” cost like £180. Samsung’s going nuts.

Samsung isn't on planet earth with their prices. I was avoiding them anyway because I believe TouchWiz is an inferior interface than stock Android. Just way too much bloat.

I got a cigarette lighter usb port to provide power to a Bluetooth -> aux dongle. Works well.

Sadly I don't think greedflation is an official term. Stagflation was the closest I know about anyway.

Tbh, might not be a bad time to do it as long as you don't sink yourself into debt too much or have to take out high interest loans. Because if the crash happens while you're studying and by the time you graduate things might start recovering again. I guess we'll see.

Imagine actually using an iPhone

Do you have any sources for this? Afaik Samsung phones are still massively popular with young people in Korea.

Have had a samsung foldable and in a 2 year time period I've had to replace the factory installed screen protector twice. It started w a little crack that crept upwards until the whole protector was split in half. Ended up just peeling it off after the 2nd replacement started cracking. I imagine ppl don't like the idea of not being able to protect their screens for one of their premium products....

On the flip side I did watch the superbowl from a hotel pool with this phone and it was perfect for that.

I'd love to have one but they're overpriced.

Same with every flagship, the tech isn't scaring me off just that the price is ridiculous to me. A new phone case, wallpaper and launcher and I'll get another year out of any phone.

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I'm in the same boat with my foldable. It'd be a handicap now to watch videos on a smaller screen now that I've gotten used to the bigger one. I only use the small screen for phone calls now because it's awkward holding the large screen to your face for that.

While the outside screen is too thin on my fold

Yep, I'm hoping they'll do a slightly wider tri-fold model at some point. I'd like to have a wider front screen, like Galaxy S22 Ultra sized, and then be able to unfold twice to get a ~3x sized tablet-sized screen.

Not that that would help with the already astronomical price-tag of the Z-Fold.

Samsung doesn't have Apple's ecosystem.

Except Samsung has competition. Apple has blind loyalty.

I need to replace my Samsung phone soon and I'm looking at Motorola. An Apple user just says I need to replace my phone soon. Then they get to spend an arm and a leg to do it.

When apple did them they were seen as reasons not to buy iPhones, now everyone has copied them it's no longer a factor in whether you buy an iPhone or not.

apples done those things and we said the same thing about those moves. And now look at em.

True, however a lot of people really don't care about that stuff which somehow often gets overlooked here and on reddit.

The problem is Samsung can not beat out apple at getting the lower tech aesthetic focused consumers, especially at the same prince points as iphones. Trying to out apple apple is only going to lose them people who are on Samsung because they don't like apple.

I got a Google Pixel a couple months ago after having all Samsungs. The pixel is great. Better phone, imo, and half the price.

Welcome to 2014 my friend

Stupid money, loved the Z series but the price skyrocketed

This is exactly why I have mine! Sent this from an Xperia 5 III :)

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Maybe I am in the minority but I’ll never need an aux jack again

There is still significant lag for bluetooth audio on both ios and android platforms. It's doesn't really impact calling, and it doesn't really impact watching video content (because they figured out how to measure that latency in real time and inject artificial delay into the video stream so that audio and video sync). But what they haven't figured out yet is the answer for bluetooth audio for gaming. When gaming, you can't arbitrarily delay the video feed so that it lines up with audio, so the bluetooth audio experience is complete dogshit for any gaming scenario. If you game, you have to use the physical cable or the constant audio lag will drive you mad.

Also, there used to be (still are) a fair number of accessories designed to work through the aux port. Examples: mobile credit card readers that connect through aux jack (like square/paypal) that are used heavily by small vendors (especially for shows/events); also things like selfie sticks that use a cable plugged into the aux jack connected to a length of wire running inside the selfie stick to a button on the end of it.

The market is starting to come up with wireless versions of these things, but the modern wireless versions now require unique ios and android versions of them when the aux-jack solution used to be platform independent.

Also, the audio quality of an aux jack is an order of magnitude superior to anything that can be piped through bluetooth....still.

I very much appreciate devices still throwing traditional aux jacks onto mobile devices. Ideally, there will be a wireless technical solution that eventually is superior, but that technology is definitely not bluetooth and we're still waiting for it to be invented and hit consumer availability.

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Nah it's 2005

Its actually kinda ridicoulus that somehow features get removed from the top kodeks first and then it slowly trickles down to cheaper phones. You would think pepole paying literaly a 1000 dollars for a phone would complain first and foremost. But then again some pepole replace their phones every 2 years Just beacuse(its not like you need need new more powerful phones for pretty much any use including gaming, with the only known to me exception being emulators, but that is a very specific niche ).

They have expandable storage on a lot of cheaper phones, as well as Aux ports. I chose my phone, the A23 5g, over the A53 because of the Aux port, and it is still an amazing phone.

Fingerprint issues were my biggest complaint on Note 20, coming from S9, that was a huge let down.

Maybe if it was revenue. Such a drop in profits could be from many ordinary business operations like expansion

No. Not at all.

If a company made one penny last quarter, and 10,000,000 this quarter, then their profit is up 10 billion percent. It’s a stupid headline.

Well if their sales are down 95% they certainly are doing something wrong.

For me its simple, build a phone with a headphohe jack and SD card reader and I will but it.

Ask the customers what they want, it’s that easy.

Don't forget though, that the typical customer may be very different from the bubble on this site.

You're very correct. A core belief at apple is that the customer is too stupid to know what they want, so you can whatever you want down their throat.

There is some merit to the idea that true innovation won't be anticipated by customers so you have to take risks. But the way apple does it pisses me off to no end.

No apple, removing every port (except shitty ass lightning ports of course) is not a good idea. It just isn't.

I think boomers are all retired, it's gen X and Millennials that don't breed

From the introduction of the article above: „Samsung blames the decline in smartphone shipments for its financial troubles. Samsung is hoping the launch of its foldables will help level out these losses for the second half of the year.“

Their washing machines and dryers aren't great compared to LG, so I would be suspicious of their ACs.

They do SoCs. Just no one uses them. Not even Samsung

I believe that once you buy a device, you own it and you should be able to do whatever you want with it. You should be able to root or install a custom OS and customize it to your heart's content. Knox coupled with Samsung's locked Snapdragon bootloader prevents Samsung phone owners from doing any of that. And on Exynos phones, when you trip Knox, some features stop working on the stock OS and your warranty is void. Doesnt matter if you relock the bootloader, those things are gone. That was already unacceptable to me. Recently though, they also began disabling the camera on the Z Fold 3 when the bootloader is unlocked, which makes me even madder.

Sure, it's like denuvo on games if you are familiar. First it was "security" then it was adding third party bullshit that isnt removable only "freezable". Hogging resources and killing performance.