It’s not alarmist: A second Trump term really is an extinction-level threat to democracy

This is what I mean .... the choice is either an average politician or an old wing nut orange man ... but the choices are so difficult for Americans to decide that many choose neither and never think that they are instead paving the way for the wannabe fascist.

I can't believe that the fate of the world hinges on the deranged decisions of a completely confused people. As much as I don't want to admit that America has so much influence, they do have literal control over much of the world and they do have the largest most powerful military at the moment. So whoever gets to be leader will set the stage for the stability or instability of the world in the next few years. And it's all riding on ill informed choices of a very ill informed population.

don't forget the christian second coming accelerationist folk who just want to see it all burn because they're embarrassed they've fucked up too many predictions.

They wish to literally embody the "all it takes for evil to prosper.." axiom

Directly supporting and advocating for fascists and genocide supporters is much worst than not choosing to participate in a staged election that for a century has granted power to the same two parties

My parents have been brainwashed into not believing any news that shows Trump in a bad light. When I show them video of one of his rants, or his dancing, or him giving a microphone a happy ending, they think I'm gullible and am falling for doctored video.

When people have been trained not to trust legitimate news sources, it's really, really hard to convince them to come back to reality because, in their eyes, we're the brainwashed ones.

Disagree. Americans are too comfortable to do much of anything for themselves. The rise of centrism is basically being OK with whatever, and calling that clever.

You can just say you want trump to win. No one believes this ridiculous line of shit you use to try and hide it

Just as violent but much more authoritarian and much less fun to watch.

Latino immigrants? Fucked. Muslim immigrants? Fucked. Economy? Fucked. Healthcare? Fucked. Education? Fucked.

• Public schools? Fucked

• Labor rights? Fucked

• Environment? Fucked

• Science-based medicine? Fucked

• Your ability to vote? Fucked

• Your freedom of speech? Fucked

• Children within proximity of religious figures and republican politicians... (see below)

• (TRUMP) Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky & Former Campbell County Judge, Served as a judge, school board member and city solicitor, forced 19 victims to perform sex acts, including seven who were minors under 16. Pled guilty on February 11, 2018 and was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/05/03/former-judge-tim-nolan-could-sentenced-today-more-drama-could-get-way/577947002/

• (TRUMP) Republican George Nader, Trump Foreign Policy Adviser, sentenced to 10 years in prison for possession of child pornography and transporting a minor into the United States for sex. https://www.courthousenews.com/child-sex-trafficker-from-trump-tower-meeting-gets-10-year-sentence/

• (TRUMP) Republican Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator & Trump’s Oklahoma campaign chair, was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. Pled guilty to a federal charge of child sex trafficking after hiring a 17-year-old boy for sex. Sentenced to 15 years in prison, in addition to ten years of supervised release and ordered to pay $125,000 in restitution. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-s-oklahoma-campaign-chair-plead-guilt-child-sex-trafficking-n822461

• Republican Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the US House of Representatives, Illinois Congressman and one of the highest-ranking U.S. politicians to ever go to prison, molested at least four boys as young as 14 years of age when he coached wrestling at an Illinois High School. He was sentenced to 15 months in prison, two years' supervised release, and a $250,000 fine. A civil case was due back in court for a status hearing on Jan. 8, 2021 at the courthouse to further address the jury trial. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/ex-u-s-house-speaker-dennis-hastert-starts-prison-term

• Republican Minnesota State Representative Jim Knoblach Drops Out Of Race After Daughter Says He Molested Her For More Than Ten Years 22 Sep 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/22/lawmaker-quits-race-after-daughter-says-he-molested-her-more-than-decade/?utm_term=.8ac8527c7f43

• Republican Jayson Boebert, husband of Q-ANON Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert of Colorado, was arrested in Jan. 2004 after allegedly exposing his penis to two women at a bowling alley, according to an arrest affidavit. Lauren Boebert (then a minor at 17 and known as Lauren Opal Roberts) was also there. He pleaded guilty to public indecency and lewd exposure involving minors. https://nypost.com/2021/01/16/gop-rep-lauren-boebert-and-husband-have-racked-up-arrests/

• Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman

• Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. https://web.archive.org/web/20171129052114/http://www.njherald.com/article/20060510/ARTICLE/305109971

• **Republican Joseph Dendy, Cobb County GA Republican Party Chairman & Sunday School Teacher,**was sentenced to life in prison after being convicted on four counts of child molestation, four counts of first-degree cruelty to children, three counts of enticing a child for indecent purposes, and one count each of aggravated sexual battery and aggravated child molestation. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/former-gop-chairman-arrested-on-child-molestation-charges

• Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida. https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=28587

• Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/registered-sex-offender-keeps-custody-of-daughter

• Republican Kentucky state Representative & pastor Dan Johnson, committed suicide after an exposé revealed his serial lies, suspected arson, criminal church, racism, accused rape of a teen and more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Johnson_(Kentucky_politician)

• Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. http://www.lanternproject.org.uk/library/child-abuse-arrests-and-court-cases/child-abuse-arrests-trials-and-proceedings/ex-county-commissioner-admits-sexual-abuse-of-girl/

• Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20120426/NEWS90/204260334

• Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Misla_Aldarondo

• Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10-year old girls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Giordano

• Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/02/opinion/journal-beverly-russell-s-prayers.html

• Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl https://www.arktimes.com/TheHoglawyer/archives/2007/08/28/the-latest-republican-sex-scandals-plural---more-of-the-same

• Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/06/us/politics-the-senate-maine-candidate-again-faces-1990-child-sex-accusation.html

• Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded "a return to traditional values", was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. http://www.thedp.com/article/2004/01/brother_stephen_convicted_of_soliciting_sex

• Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. https://culteducation.com/group/1255-false-memories/6514-man-in-notorious-sex-case-finishes-term.html

• Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. https://www.semissourian.com/story/57773.html

• Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. https://www.arktimes.com/TheHoglawyer/archives/2007/08/28/the-latest-republican-sex-scandals-plural---more-of-the-same

• Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). http://www.chattanoogan.com/2002/6/21/23202/Tennessee-Legislator-Commits-Suicide.aspx

• Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/08/ln/hawaii710080338.html

• Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. https://lasvegassun.com/news/2002/oct/14/assembly-candidate-gardner-ruled-ineligible-due-to/

• Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. https://www.wgal.com/article/council-accepts-resignation-of-member-imprisoned-for-rape/6189408

• Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in prison http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october172007/repubscandals101707.php

• Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Robin_Vanderwall

• Republican city councilman Mark Harris, described as a “good military man / church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

• Republican Brandon Hixon, Idaho State Representative, resigned while under criminal investigation for molesting two girls, including a young female relative for more than 10 years, then killed himself three months later, shortly before his ex-wife and two others were to testify before a grand jury. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brandon-hixon-former-idaho-lawmaker-facing-sex-abuse-inquiry-kills-himself/

• Republican Tony Yocham, Hamilton, TX Chief of Police, was arrested by Texas Rangers on charges of continuous sexual abuse of a child. https://www.kxxv.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county-chief-of-police-arrested-for-continuous-abuse-of-a-child

• Republican Nathan Larson of the Virginia House of Delegates is a self-confessed pedophile and white supremacist. Was arrested on felony charges for kidnapping, child abduction, soliciting child pornography from a minor and meeting a child for the intention of sex. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-pedophile-white-supremacist-arrested-kidnapping-12-yr-old-girl-n1251832

• **NOTE: so here's a website with [a list of about 1000](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/23/1806673/

South Korea (NK); NATO (he’s pull us out of it); the baltic states (Russia will likely try to invade, after the previous one) Finland (same); Mexico (Trump will probably try to invade at some point)

Ukraine and Taiwan are the next next american weapons industry's main market, it would be really bad for your 401k if fighting doesn't happen there, right?

60% of those entries deserve to get fucked, why focus on foreign policy when the nation itself rots from the inside from work-shy dregs

Just curious as a non US citizen: why do you believe Trump is better than Kamala? Just objectively curious.

I don't think they believe that at all. My guess is that they feel the opposite way.

Yup.

It’s easy to keep rewinding until you find the one place we went wrong. Turnips first election, what we let bush get away with, Clinton’s turn of the party, electing Reagan, Nixon…. There always the one thing, there’s always the one weird trick.

We have a broken garbage system that has failed. We’re in for some shit.

Or it could be regular family people that are sick of seeing their taxes going to countries not even in NATO.

I thought republicans didn't even like NATO, what's the butthurt about this?

Or the fact that the inflation during this administration has American choosing food or medicine.

We had to choose that long before this administration. The primary source of inflation is corporate greed and the top 0.1% demanding more from the rest of us, while paying less themselves, a position they only get away with because of conservatives.

Or the fact that during this administration housing has become only a dream.

Because there are no penalties or dis-incentives for corporations not to buy up all the land and houses. Every time we try to impose such rules, it gets shot down by republicans.

Or the facts that the current administration opened the boarder to bring cheap labor to replace us.

Border. Also, the implied violence and expulsion against undocumented workers is what enables employers to pay them such a cheap wage and enforce abysmal working conditions on them. The correct solution is to provide an easy path for work visas, and heavily penalize companies for hiring undocumented workers. You'll never guess who is against doing that though...

Your comment is peak "stick in bicycle" meme.

sick of seeing their taxes going to countries not even in NATO.

This misconception needs to be corrected.

The tax dollars go to America's milliary industrial complex. It's their surplus (which is already budgeted and paid for by the American government) that is sent overseas. No tax dollars leave the USA.

Medicine? You mean like those handled by Obamacare which Trump wants to get rid of? From my understanding that was a huge change (here in Australia we have Medicare which is life changing and similar)

Also, if you're getting replaced by people from another country (who have a huge disadvantage), I'd argue maybe you need to work on improving yourself.

That being said, she's also increasing the minimum wage and taxing the rich more (whilst reducing tax for middle class and poor). So even minimum wage people are hugely better off.

Trumps bs has caused issues internationally, even here in Australia. I don't think you realise how much he is fucking things up for normal people worldwide

Right, because things were soo much better (or different at all) under Trump. Here let me correct you with some context:

"Aw man, I'm so sick of everything being so shit, life sucks because of the government, let's just fucking genocide each other, let's elect the one person that has and will continue to do everything worse and has promised to start slaughtering us with the army."

That's the argument you're making, shut the fuck up! Maybe get your self checked for rabies, because the logical implication of that is seeing all your family members that don't agree with you slaughtered. Jeez... I'm saying "logical implication" as if that isn't what MAGA is literally preaching out loud. What has the US come to?

Shhhh. Some folks are reading the article.

You can do all that stuff and still not support a racist asshole

Well start by voting. Vote local, vote often and make your voice heard. Then maybe try to reduce your carbon footprint. You really need a cultural shift for this to be effective. Yes yes I know businesses are the major polluters so I revert back to sentence one, vote, and continue to try to shift the culture to a more renewable one

Are you ready to take the fight to the streets? Because that’s likely what it’ll come down to. Voting won’t save you. The constitution is only a flimsy piece of paper. Start organizing now.

The most likely path at this point is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, a collection of state legislative measures, state constitutional amendments, etc. aimed at using the electoral college against itself. The very short tldr is once >=270 electoral votes worth of states have passed something enacting it, all those states' delegates will vote in line with the national popular vote regardless of how their individual state votes, forcing the popular vote winner to be president.

Whether or not it'll survive judicial challenge if/when it gets to >=270 electoral votes worth of states is entirely unclear. In theory, there's nothing they should be able to do about it, but SCOTUS has shown time and time again it doesn't actually give a fuck about the constitution.

It doesn't require the handful of swing states to be onboard. It just requires the heavy hitters which are largely marginalized by the electoral college and some of the smaller deep left or right states which are also made pretty irrelevant in terms of campaigning even if they get a bit more influence

The politics in Germany better remain under control. If the fucking AfD took power, all of our neighbors, with exception the fucking Austrians and Swiss, would invade our asses.

Really? Because I recall the first woman hung in Salem for witchcraft was hung because being unable to say the Lord's prayer in english(she spoke gaelic) means you're a witch.

I wonder which one is canonically correct? Can the devil say bible words or not? Or is it specifically the lords prayer? Because if that's it then we can prove we ARENT the devil.

I hate religious rhetoric so much. My brain hurts now trying to make it make sense.

Ooops! You guys fucked up! Knew we couldn't count on you.

That didn't happen last time. Instead, everyone tried to become the new Trump and take up the mantle. They failed because the real Trump was still running, but without him they'll be able to adapt.

Although they'll struggle to draw in voters the way Trump does. People like Trump because he's an "outsider". A new outsider can totally emerge to take up the mantle once Trump is not sucking all the oxygen out of the room.

Or who knows. Maybe once Trump is defeated everything will go back to normal. 👍

How did you read any of that from my comment?

I'm just pointing out that fascism doesn't go away just because Trump is gone.

It's more like a cult and/or terrorist organization at this point.

Correct.

So that the US becomes a one party state? Sounds oddly similar to a certain way of ruling that was used by a certain German leader during WWII. And y'all have the nerve to call Trump a fascist. The irony is through the roof.

Yeah, or steal it.

To claim Trump is "isolationist" in 2016 is one. To claim it in 2024 is simply denying the facts. Trump was and remains not that much different to Biden on international policy. The key difference is diplomacy. Trump fails at diplomacy while keeping within many of the same policies.

There is a reason that Biden foreign policy has doubled down or refused to undo Trump era policies that Democrats considered to be mistakes, like leaving the JCPOA, playing around with Taiwan ambiguities, enabling Israeli liquidation of a nascent Palestinian state, etc.

I'm commenting on the headline, not the article. I'm allowed to do that.

Democrats want a ceasefire. Republicans want genocide. Despite attempts to conflate these two positions they could not be more different. Do not let anyone tell you we have two fascists parties. We have a neoliberal party and a fascist party. The neoliberal party is terrible on this issue, but they do not want the genocide to continue. The Palestinians, along with everyone else, will be harmed by a second Trump term. Voting for Kamala is harm reduction. If you care about anyone please vote for Harris and Walz because doing so is useful for ending the genocide.

Harris is not some random democrat party member she's the vice president of the current Biden administration. She's the second highest person in charge in the country, trying to pull her out from what the government is doing is a big stretch. You are claiming in the same post Biden to be complicit in a genocide and the democrats to want a ceasefire, stop being illogical.

Both parties are fine with the genocide going on and with israel fascist government finishing the job, this is not what i'm telling you it's what is happening live right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

The one that is sending bombs

https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/u-s-made-weapons-used-by-government-of-israel-in-violation-of-international-law-and-u-s-law/

In fact both parties are fascists and supporting a genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Discord server?

Just because someone failed to rob a bank doesn't mean they aren't a bank robber.

Remember to keep your heads buried in the sand! Look away from the horrors! Nothing to see here!!

Your first ammendment guarantees that everybody can weigh in and say that your foreign policies suck dicks. Wether you like it or not.

GReat APE, return to monke.

What are you on about lol.

That's what I've been asking the magabrainz in my life when they object to the f-word. I ask them if this doesn't count as fascism, what would count, in their view?

So far, no cogent responses. All emoting.

Source?

In their defence why would you expect them to know about the political stance of the devs?

If you read my comment, I said I'm new here. That is my first ever comment here. How was I supposed to know that the website was being ran by tankies? I've jumped from the frying pan into the fire. I can't escape far leftists. And they want to put a communist and a known warmonger in office. We're so cooked.

I think he's describing Mao Zedong. Gays, porn, and religion not welcome.