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Literally the Republican Way™©®
It disgusts me to no end. "It's wrong and should be punished until it happens to me!"
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Saving this! Who knows when it might come in handy…
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Privileged people do get an exception - they can afford to fly to another state for an abortion.
People like this think they're part of the in group because they're white or christian, but the only war is class war. To our rulers we're all the enemy.
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My fucking Trumpy brother in law has this attitude. He lives in the south, votes for Trump, and has a wife, two daughters, and a son. His wife has had a couple of complicated pregnancies that, had they happened now in the place they currently live, could well have resulted in her death. His attitude when asked 'what if one of your daughters gets raped?' is to say he can just fly her somewhere else to get an abortion, because he has money. Fuck you, dude.
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These are people who don't want rights, they want privileges. They don't want equality, they want hierarchy. They can't say "gimme gimme", they say "take America back".
From who? Americans. They want to take what you have. Now that Republicans control the Federal Government they will start to take from each other.
This literally happened during the first Trump administration. Does no Trump supporter remember how they all fought for attention and sucked so badly?
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Yeah, if you can get a MAGAt to be honest with you, at some point, the core of what they want comes down to, "I support Trump because I want people who are different than me to have more misery in their life than I do."
If that means taking on some extra misery themselves, be so be it, as long as it's even worse for them.
It's a sad type of cruelty.
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Many states put a bounty on anyone found to be helping someone travel out of state to get an abortion.
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Texas also has many local abortion travel bans so you can be punished for using their roads while going to the other states if you can't afford to fly over them.
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I love that they referred her to an anti-abortion crisis center, because there's a 99% chance they'll just tell her the same "pro-life" garbage she's been spewing and send her ass home.
Remember, God makes no mistakes 🤗
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I really do hate myself for a lack of sympathy in this situation, but these people need to experience what they’re doing to everyone else.
What’s sad is that people who agree with her won’t see the threat to her life as a valid reason either. They don’t know her so they don’t care for her. They’ll lump her in with the people they torment outside of Planned Parenthood regularly.
Just another woman who spread her legs and is too cowardly to accept the will of god.
I’ll be honest, I’m burned out. I need a break from morons and their stories. I really do.
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I've given up on being sympathetic for people who actively try to put these things in place. Like, I'm just jaded now. You voted for this. Congratulations, if this is fatal for your stupid decisions, that's on you. I'm sympathetic to the people with brains who knew this would happen, those people get my sympathy and caring.
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Don’t feel bad. Everyone has limits. At some point you have to worry about yourself and those around you.
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I’ll be honest, I’m burned out. I need a break from morons and their stories. I really do.
You need to stop going out of your way to doomscroll on social media, then. It's ultimately entirely in your power to not be exposed to them.
I'm being serious. It's not good for you--social media makes it extremely easy to be exposed to negativity 24/7 if you're looking for it, since you're 1 person in a world of over 8 billion. You don't have to get even close to 1% of the people being assholes, for this to be not only possible, but trivially easy.
The human psyche is literally not designed to withstand the kind of barrage technology has made possible. Please do not feel guilty about giving yourself a break at times, to say the very least.
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Don't worry, they're all gonna feel the pain when the plans for tariffs, deportations, and budget cuts are implemented and everything costs more (so much is imported and no Americans are going to pick crops) and everyone has less money (they're looking at benefits, VA, and federal employment cuts). Maybe they'll cry He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting. but my hope is they learn who to never elect again at all levels of government.
It's going to be a rough 2 years until the midterms when we flip one of the chambers of Congress and stop any more insanity, but we'll survive. And if we do what we can, we'll get back what's ours and then some in 4 years.
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For what it's worth, this particular case happened 2 years ago, in Missouri:
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Good lemming. Keep doing good things.
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From the article:
She was already at "risks of maternal thrombosis given her history of (deep vein thrombosis during a COVID-19 infection)
Why do I picture this lady as an anti-vaxxer & anti-masker?
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80% white. 40% with a high school education or less.
In 2022, over 100 anti-vaccination protesters rallied at the state Capitol against health director Donald Kauerauf's confirmation, despite his opposition to mask and vaccine mandates. Protesters displayed signs reading "God-given natural immunity" and "We're not guinea pigs."
In 2024, House Bill 1424 was introduced to prohibit COVID-19 vaccination requirements for transportation access. Missouri Senators Josh Hawley and Eric Schmitt co-sponsored federal legislation to ban mask mandates through 2024.
The state as a whole gives a certain vibe..
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Nutpicking. For every "Haha! Instant Karma! Suck it, idiots!" front page circle jerk, a thousand conservatives will get abortions under the table without a problem.
You've got to go two years back on this shit because its ultimately the exception, not the rule.
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Missouri just voted to make them legal again, so not sure your point.
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because its ultimately the exception, not the rule.
I think that's what makes it notable enough to be reported on?
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The only moral abortion is MY abortion!
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Yeah I wish your mum had have one. Genosider little piece of shit.
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The only moral abortion is my abortion!
Hope she learns from this shit that her choices have consequences. Vote better next time
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She won't
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Judging her type if I had to place a bet the next thing she's gonna do is trying to sue the next best (probably innocent) person for the biggest bullshit reasons just to feel better. (And maybe go to a more liberal state to get an abortion)
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I wonder if it was more an assumption that the rules only applied to viable pregnancies.
I mean I'm pro-choice but I'd assume anyone pushing to ban abortion is aiming to prevent viable pregnancies from being terminated while still allowing medically necessary or unviable pregnancies to be terminated.
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Nah. The point of this is to punish women for having sex.
If they die, the harlot shouldn’t have spread her legs.
If she was raped - no she wasn’t.
The whole point is to punish women for taking control of our bodies and then becoming full citizens. Cis white men HATE women.
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Nah, it'll be the dems fault somewhow.
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Reminds me of brexit. You were warned, lady. You just chose not to listen because you didn’t think it would have a negative impact on you.
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"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
-Francis M. Wilhoit
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The Only Moral Abortion is My Own.
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"First they came for..." you fucking ghouls.
You signed a death warrant for us all and for our children's supposed future, and your ignorance and cowardice was the ink.
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And just in case anyone had any hope of the next generation fixing things... they're also targeting education.
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Targeted for decades, just now finishing the job with singling out option for education to only vouchers to religious schools. Even then, they will slowly decrease value of vouchers so eventually you are out of pocket for a poor quality education and religious indoctrination as cherry on top.
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People who voted for the Leopard Eating People’s Faces party suddenly shocked when the leopard eats their face.
And sadly, most won’t learn that lesson.
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"Actually I like having my face eaten."
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Leopard Eating People's Paces
I just pictured a leopard that would pounce on people's footprints and eat those. Like dirt and all, I loled.
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Autocorrect for the win. Fixed it.
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And nothing was actually learned.
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So she got what she voted for? I don't see an issue
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Oh my god the end of that article is brutal... Yes, leopards eating faces and all, but holy shit that response was heartless
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Being heartless is a basic requirement for being Republican.
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They believe she is a piece of trash, not a person, so what did she expect to be treated like. Used her for her vote, and then threw her away.
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Yes, heartless as she as been heartless. Brutal as she was. Live by the sword? Well ya know the rest 🤷♂️
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She did it to herself. Not a drop of sympathy from me.
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"Farmer" and "White". Name a more American duo
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"Things that really should not be run for profit" and "running them for profit anyway because socialism bad"
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Hey, Gary Farmer is a national treasure, and he was Native American!
Edit: Ah shit my bad, he's Canadian. Still North America...
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Hotdogs and beer?
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Guns and Ammo.
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ETA: I’ll take the downvotes on this one. Shower your disapproval. Fuck this lady and her leopard eaten face.
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"then connected Farmer with an anti-abortion crisis pregnancy center in the state"
I can imagine how that conversation went: "I know its risking not only your reproductive organs, but also your life. However, have you considered carrying the child to term so she can die in your arms shortly afterward so you can 'pwn the libs'? Think about their tears!"
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The most fucked up thing about most Leopards Ate My Face types is that the leopard always eats someone else’s face first. This smug turd-lady voted for years to punish everyone she didn’t like. I feel sorry for what a hateful human she is
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And she will go back to being a piece of shit after her ordeal, assuming she survives.
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I am rapidly running out of sympathy for such people. I still have some, but I am rapidly running out.
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Rules for thee, but not for me.
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Aww man Im all out of fucks
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This may get downdooted to oblivion, but I think some of this is human nature. It is abhorrent, and something we need to strive to fix, but it is rather natural for people to think that their own situation is typical -- because for them, it is. Every exemplar that a privileged person will have is also a privileged exemplar -- until, of course, something like this happens.
And as a further consequence, it is extremely difficult to convince someone that their personal situation is not the norm. Everyone wants to be the main character and ultimately believes that they are.
Not sure what the solution is.
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Provide testing for logic, critical thinking, and empathy in order to vote?
Stop making excuses for stupid people that hold back the progress of mankind?
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Oh, I'm not trying to make excuses. Though I can appreciate that it looks like that.
But how do we restrict the stupid people? If we agree that every human gets to take part, then it follows that the stupid will be voting.
I don't think a litmus test is the answer, since they are extremely easy to misuse. Why not say only landowners should vote? How about only veterans? It's a dangerous path.
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Why put it all on the stupid people? It’s at least as much a problem with people not being accountable for their words, the death of objective and traditional media, the loss of distinction between news and opinion.
The problem with Trump being elected is not just the stupid people who thought that was a good idea but the things he can get away with saying, lack of trusted reporting or fact checking.
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I guess instead of reading a few books, we'll all just have to make the same mistakes that we've already made, again, in order to learn anything... Yeah sure, dude, let's start making people take tests before they can vote. What could go wrong?
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Reading.
We need everyone to read more books. A wide variety of stories on a wide variety of topics by a wide variety of authors, all with different backgrounds and ideas. We must read stories that let us temporarily step into the mind and experiences of other people, who aren't us, to train our brains the ability to understand the plights of others. Books of human stories, as opposed to movies, doom-scrolling TikTok, etc., seems uniquely suited for this kind of training of empathy, because the stories are executed inside our own brains.
I'm willing to bet that these why-are-the-leopards-suddenly-eating-my-face? the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion type people have read distinctly less, or at least far less varied, stories than us who look at them and wonder how it is possible to be so unable to put themselves in the shoes of anyone but themselves.
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I don't think it's more human mature than the opposite is.
Most of us are capable of reasoning and of empathy. We can hear a doctor say "there's cases where it's necessary" and think "yeah, makes sense" or "I trust their expertise".
Not being able to see past oneself seems like a very limited view. There's reasons for that of course. but it's a failure of education and social surroundings. And it's not inherent.
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This is an explanation of human perception and behaviour, there is nothing controversial about it and easily understood. It is also true that if you stick someone in a creepy haunted house they will naturally feel scared even though it's Halloween and it's perfectly safe. The issue is not that humans have these natural tendencies that lead to logical fallacies, the issue is that humans have the capacity to be meta aware of them, process them, and situate them appropriately--skills developed through education and practice/experience--yet we have sociopolitocal movements that encourage the opposite for the benefit of the rich and powerful.
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I get your point, but i think people are not consistent with this. Who gets or doesnt get sympathy is entirely emotional.
Ive had people say that refugees are at fault for not getting their papers in order in time and shut be deportet over it and then go on to talk about how for them as citizens it is impossible with the low staffed and inefficient government offices these days.
They willfully ignore that their problems with the bureaucracy could exist for other people too. And we are not even talking about acknowledgong it to be worse. Just simply transferring their life experience onto other people like you describe.
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Classic FAFO
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Kristen Bell; she and her, now husband, Dax Woods made one of my favorite movies. Hit and Run. It's a car chase and road trip movie that is also left wing. Mostly a guy's movie, but homosexuality is dealt with grace and humor. It's really funny and smart. My fifteen year old son loved it. Positive masculinity is shown.
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It's a sad reality that most pro-life stance people don't understand that most pro-choice people are also pro-life. It certainly doesn't help that some extremists rant loudly about 9th month abortions. But a lot of people who don't like the idea of abortion still understand the need for it, both medical and otherwise, and believe the decision should rest with the parent and doctor, not the government. If there was more open an honest communication then there probably wouldn't be as many single-issue voters voting Republican because of this issue.
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There are few situations where I would choose abortion, however if my wife or daughter needed an abortion for whatever reason, I'd want it to be legally available from a qualified healthcare provider with minimal wait time. This business of having to leave the state/country to get an abortion is fucking ridiculous.
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Exactly. I thought I was pro-life years ago because I personally wouldn't consider an abortion outside of medical issues. But I also didn't presume to make decisions for other people. It took a friend explaining to me that my position makes me pro-choice for me to understand. The Republicans have done a good job of framing the pro-choice stance as wanting to kill babies, and the pro-choice people haven't done a good job explaining that it's not.
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this is missouri.
i bet this woman still voted against amendment 3.
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Two years ago? Cuz that's how old this is.
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I was going to make a leopards ate my face joke, but then I realized this IS the LAMF group!
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God’s plan, bruh.
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The poor dear has learned the consequences of voting against her interests far too late. I laughed, but at the same time I'm worried about those who voted in their interests and got fucked over.
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This is just like COVID. "Do the bare minimum by staying home and social distancing to save those who cannot fight this fight." And they all said, "fuck that, I have a TV in 4K but watching church services on it just doesn't fill me with the holy spirit! Imma risk it!" And then proceed to make the pandemic worse than it had to be while adding another god damned fucking wedge issue into the mix of other wedge issues drummed up by the GOP and ultra wealthy.
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If she waited it out, she and the fetus could suffer tremendously. “The thing [a doctor] said was, ‘There are things worse than death, and I have seen it,’” Farmer recounted.
Damn. Feels like it could be a good quote to oppose anti-abortion.
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A medical form field we need is "what did you learn?"
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She probably still believes all the bullshit too. "too many women are just getting post birth abortions for the funsies" Just the fakest stupidest lies.
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Womp womp
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Hmmm. This sounds a lot like Karma.
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Jaguar problem?
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And she learns nothing
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Makes you wonder how Ms "pretty pro-life" votes
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Good. I hope she suffers. She is apparently one of the knuckle draggers who can only learn the hard way.
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she won't. if she survives she'll just go back to her old self calling other abortion seekers evil or sluts.
even when they had the right, that's what they did as they are leaving the abortion clinic after having had one themselves ... there's a massive disconnect in the brain.
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[Scene opens on a wide, desolate savanna at dusk. The camera slowly pans over a leopard lying under a tree, its large body barely able to move. The sun is setting, casting a cold, dim light over the scene. Soft wind rustles through the dry grass. The leopard’s eyes are dull, its breathing labored.]
Narrator (soft, somber voice): In the wild, leopards are meant to stalk, to hunt, to climb. But for some, this is no longer possible. These are the leopards of the forgotten savanna... the ones who can no longer live the life they were born to lead.
[Cut to a close-up of another leopard, this one lying next to a watering hole, panting heavily. The camera lingers on its enormous, bloated body, its paws barely able to reach the ground. The leopard’s eyes seem vacant, devoid of the wild spark they once had.]
Narrator: Overfed and unable to move, these leopards have been left to a slow, painful existence. They can no longer hunt their prey, no longer climb the trees to escape danger, no longer feel the thrill of the chase. They are trapped in their own bodies.
[Cue the soft, mournful opening chords of "Angel" by Sarah McLachlan. The camera slowly pans over a third leopard, sluggishly trying to rise, but its massive weight prevents it from standing. It lets out a heavy sigh, its once-strong legs buckling beneath it.]
Narrator: They are the forgotten victims of a world that has abandoned them. Too fat to run, too weak to fight... These leopards are slowly fading, one breath at a time. They need your help.
[Cut to a shot of a leopard staring out over the savanna. The camera lingers on its face, eyes half-closed, its expression one of quiet resignation.]
Narrator: For just $3 a day, you can provide the care and support these leopards so desperately need. A donation will help give them the chance to live a life of dignity. Help them find their way back to the wild they were meant to roam.
[The music swells as the camera fades to black, and the words "Your donation can make a difference" appear in white text on the screen.]
Narrator (whispering): Please, don’t let them suffer in silence. The time to act is now.
[The music fades out, and the SPCA logo appears in the corner, along with a toll-free number and website for donations.]
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Now I do know and understand the risks along with what is involved with a hysterectomy, but her age along with her political stance brings some questions.
With her being 'mostly pro-life'... Was she against contraception? Did she get pregnant on purpose? Did she know the level of risk to the mother and fetus with a pregnancy after 40? She said she was worried about losing her uterus... Was she wanting to get pregnant again? Did she know she's just around the corner from menopause? Being around her age, the option for freezing one's eggs can be a viable option, especially with the possibility of needing a hysterectomy. Would she be against a surrogate pregnancy?
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Nice watermark
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Reading.
We need everyone to read more books. A wide variety of stories on a wide variety of topics by a wide variety of authors, all with different backgrounds and ideas. We must read stories that let us temporarily step into the mind and experiences of other people, who aren't us, to train our brains the ability to understand the plights of others. Books of human stories, as opposed to movies, doom-scrolling TikTok, etc., seems uniquely suited for this kind of training of empathy, because the stories are executed inside our own brains.
I'm willing to bet that these why-are-the-leopards-suddenly-eating-my-face? the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion type people have read distinctly less, or at least far less varied, stories than us who look at them and wonder how it is possible to be so unable to put themselves in the shoes of anyone but themselves.
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Leopards eating their faces as usual.
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Does Lemmy have a leopards ate my face page? because if ti doesn't this could launch one.
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If her pregnancy was such a health risk she should have taken personal responsibility and not had intercourse with any man who has not had a vasectomy.
This just shows her moral turpitude and adds to the argument that women shouldn’t even be able to vote!!!
Tap for spoiler
If you thought I was serious you need to go touch grass.
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You obviously don't understand the concept of bodily autonomy. Parental obligation is not the same as losing bodily autonomy. A parent is not required to give up a kidney or liver for their child. Accountability for a child's behavior is not the same thing as losing bodily autonomy.
It's no different than if you agree to a blood donor and decide in the middle of donation that you want to stop. They cannot force you to continue, even if someone's life depends on it. The fetus' bodily autonomy comes in the form of not having its organs harvested, and being allowed to survive outside the woman's body if it can. There is no form of autonomy that involves another person. That is literally antithetical to the definition of autonomy
You are wrong, flat out, and I encourage you to learn more about ethics before making such patently erroneous statements
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Hahahahahahahahahahah
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So did she lose her uterus? That would be great actually.
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Why does anyone want to grieve?
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This was a string of malpractices. The Missouri law didn't prohibit an abortion in this case, but it was incorrectly judged by the doctors/their legal staff. The law allows abortions in case of a medical emergency - which this was.
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From your link:
"At the time of the discussion, Farmer was medically stable, with some vaginal bleeding that was not heavy. “Therefore contrary to the most appropriate management based (sic) my medical opinion, due to the legal language of MO law, we are unable to offer induction of labor at this time,” the report quotes the specialist as saying."
So yes, the law did prevent an abortion and endangered her life.
She is suing because she expected an exception for herself.
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According to the HHS secretary:
“While many state laws have recently changed, it’s important to know that the federal EMTALA requirements have not changed, and continue to require that healthcare professionals offer treatment, including abortion care, that the provider reasonably determines is necessary to stabilize the patient’s emergency medical condition,” Becerra wrote.
“The hospital’s noncompliance creates a reasonable expectation that an adverse outcome resulting in serious injury, harm, impairment, or death will occur to current or future individuals in similar situations if not immediately corrected,” the report states.
“Although her doctors advised her that her condition could rapidly deteriorate, they also advised that they could not provide her with the care that would prevent infection, hemorrhage, and potentially death because, they said, the hospital policies prohibited treatment that could be considered an abortion,” Becerra wrote. “This was a violation of the EMTALA protections that were designed to protect patients like her.”
Farmer suffered what doctors call preterm premature rupture of membranes — her water broke, followed by vaginal bleeding, abdominal pressure and cramping, the Springfield News-Leader reported in an October article. Doctors told her she would be unlikely to carry the child to term, and doing so increased her chances of infection or other severe outcome.
Medical errors are a serious issue in the US, harming over 400,000 people and killing over 200,000 in a single year. This is a clear-cut example of a harmful medical error.
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Yeah but I can't blame the doctors for refusing, when in doubt a right wing jury without medical training will decide if it was an emergency or not, and your freedom depends on their verdict.
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What defines a medical emergency in rhe eyes of the law? How many hospitals are going to perform an abortion they deem a medical emergency only to be potentially sued by an AG who disagrees that it was medically necessary?
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Missouri law has a definition of "emergency" here, which this situation fits. Also, if I tell my doctor friend Bob not to call 911 unless an emergency is happening, my other friend Tom starts having a seizure he believes is life-threatening, and Bob doesn't call 911, is that my fault or Bob's fault? If hospitals start getting sued en masse for these obvious mistakes, they'll probably be more likely to see reason. This is either a genuine error in reading the law or liability dodging.
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EMTALA is a federal law. The doctors are caught. Between state law that says they can't perform an abortion and federal law that says they have to do it. It's a choice between a fine for violating EMTALA, of being charged with a class B felony and maybe losing their license.
And yes, the law allows abortions in the case of an emergency, but it doesn't define what constitutes an emergency. It just says:
- It shall be an affirmative defense for any person alleged to have violated the provisions of subsection 2 of this section that the person performed or induced an abortion because of a medical emergency. The defendant shall have the burden of persuasion that the defense is more probably true than not.
They can (and will) still be charged, and they will have to justify that the situation really was an emergency.
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They are also caught in the ethical dilemma of "if I don't treat this patient, it is highly likely they'll be gravely injured or die." Missouri law defines "emergency" elsewhere, and this case fits that bill. There was no actual legal impediment here.
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I'll take stories that never happened for 400 Alec.
Edit: for the downvoters... cope harder.
