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Putin threatens UK with new ballistic missile as Ukraine war escalates

www.independent.co.uk Putin threatens UK with new ballistic missile as Ukraine war escalates

The UK government confirmed that Russia had, for the first time, used a ballistic missile with a range of ‘several thousand’ kilometres

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Come on then if you think you’re hard enough
Russia started the Ukraine war in 2014 by attacking Crimea. Then they escalated the war in 2022 by attacking all of Ukraine.

No other escalations have happened. Claiming that it has is typical russotroll bullshit.
- escalations are escalations, justifiable or not.
- lol. Just gonna skip over the Maiden Coup, where the west installed a Nazi puppet government, which proceeded to commit a genocide of ethnic Russians in the East for 8 years, while allowing NATO to deploy troops and missiles at the Russian border?
  
  Oh wait. I forgot you said we weren’t allowed to mention any facts counter to your argument.
  
  This poster made 80 posts in less than the last 24 hours spreading various Russian propaganda points. lol totally organic. Lemmy hitting the big leagues.
  
  russia is an actual nazi state.
  
  Oh wait. I forgot you said we werent bla bla bla.
  
  So, the West is Nazis and Russia is the great savior? Got it.
Dear Mr Putin,

Please don't TARGET BLACKPOOL. It would be a huge waste of a missile as there isn't any SECRET GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS IN BLACKPOOL. Let me be clear, we'll respond with a strongly worded letter if you AIM FOR BLACKPOOL. It will cost us tens of pounds to repair the damage, and we simply haven't got enough money left after giving billions to various government contractors.

Kind regards, Someone that has been to Blackpool
Bring it.
Hitting London with a ballistic missile would bring the rents down. Maybe this is a good thing.
- Well it would likely put them up, seeing as it would remove supply but, if you know Londoners you'll know it won't do a damn thing about demand.
  
  At least they have good public transportation. But yeah, anyone making less than £100,000 a year, good luck finding anywhere with a train commute of under an hour.
- As a bonus, London is no more
  
  These things aren't accurate enough to hit much so as long as he puts conventional warheads on it like he did for Dnipro, it won't do much.
I cannot wait for the old fart to fart his last fart.
- Fun fact, gut bacteria continue living for a while after the host is dead. So the last fart will be posthumous.
  
  Do you think they mourn our passing?
Please do it Putin. WE want the excuse, NATO wants the excuse, Poland's ~~chomping~~ champing at the bit for the excuse and we really want to see how long it takes them to rush Moscow.

Edit: damn it Lemmy, I'm an engineer not a dictionary.
- Pushes glasses in It’s actually “champing.”
  
  "My subscribers are pogchamping me, Simperial. Can you say the same?"
  
  Didn't know this, thanks!
  
  How do horses "champ" at their bit?
  
  Language evolves.
- Which is exactly why he's not going to, and everyone knows it. This is to look strong for his own domestic audience.
  
  The threat that's actually for us is the one about arming it's own anti-Western proxies, and it did indeed make us think twice for a few months.
- Lukashenko: why are there troops with wings sprayed on their vehicles massing near my border?
  
  Poland: Just a regular training, nothing to worry about
  
  THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
- WE want the excuse, NATO wants the excuse
  
  Are you ready to enlist?
  
  Sure, with my skillset I'll be designing and building drones by the 1000s. If that is what is required to stop a tyrant from threatening Europe hand me a long brown overcoat, hat, cigarette, and FRSKY radio transmitter!
  
  Edit: I should emphasize, I'd rather not fight if not necessary. I'd rather be in my current job creating equipment for infrastructure that will power the green energy transition.
  
  However, I have studied history and there are times where conflict is unavoidable especially when dealing with power mad dictators. The countries of Europe deserve to live in peace to find their own paths without the threat to their borders and sovereignty. Russia itself deserves a government that works for everyone not just the dozen oligarchs in Moscow.
  
  Oh and for the record, fuck US imperialism (though they are a NATO ally) and fuck the CCP, yes you tankies can fuck off as well.
  
  I'll go back just to fuck Putin.
- I know this is a joke, but some people might actually have this mindset and that is very very dangerous.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enFxS_EL2Zg
- Boys on the internet want it, but they won’t join in
  
  https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/48749-why-wont-britons-serve-in-the-armed-forces-if-called
  
  Fighting for Ukraine against the head oligarch of Russia? Yes.
  
  Fighting for oil interests of oligarchs in Londongrad? No.
Blowing up the Brits is a nice olive branch, but I think we'll need more commitment if we want a lasting peace deal
- Please end our suffering (as a Brit)
- As a Brit, I approve of this message.
Oh yeah, it was Tuesday yesterday.
Reminder that World War 2 had a gradual unfolding of declarations of war across several months or longer, depending on how you want to fuck that pig. I think we're already in the onset of WWIII, in some sense.
- The thing is, if NATO is worth anything at all. Hitting a NATO country would bring a lot of declarations in a very short order. It would get very WW3, very quickly.
  
  Same way you go bankrupt; slowly, and then all at once.
  
  That's assuming Europe wasn't economically stretched already, and America didn't have an incoming president who wasn't more interested in fellating Putin.
- I'm not sure we're on a path to WWIII if it's Russia vs everyone else. If China decides to get involved then maybe but I don't see any evidence they're willing to throw in with Putin, same with Iran.
  
  There's a 100% chance that Trump will send troops to Iran in the next year.
- That's terrifying because WW3 risks the use of nuclear weapons and every model of nuclear exchange that has been run always escalates to mutual assured destruction with billions dead and the end of civilization.
  
  I just finished listening to the audiobook of Nuclear War: A scenario by Annie Jacobsen. Highly recommend it.
  
  Civilization's kinda shit anyway. We had a ~~good~~ run.
  
  The real slippery slopes are graded much less steeply than you'd expect
- Are we in the Spanish Civil War type pre-phase of WWII?
- This is what I have been saying too. I think we will look back on this time and refer to it as the start of ww3.
  
  Also technology is completely different than it ever has been. Like there was not a big tome or tech difference between ww1 and ww2. So a modern world war would look completely different making it difficult to identify.
  
  So far it's been lots more grenade drones and cyber warfare than you got in the 20th century. Asymmetry is the name of the game, aside from urban positional fighting and more traditional focus on logistics and supply lines.
Just keep rattlin' that sabre, buddy.
This is “threatens the uk” :

“We consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against military facilities of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities.”
- While also considering others to be not entitled to do the same.
- "We consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against what we say we believe to be military facilities of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities."
  
  The important unsaid part needs to be in there. Whether an opponent actually puts military installations inside civilian locations or not (generally a bad move), this gives war criminals carte blanche to bomb whatever they feel like.
  
  Not sure it’s helpful to imagine words that were not said, but that still a warning not a threat.
- Because Russia has been so good at only hitting military facilities in Ukraine so far.
So the UK thought they could support western provided missiles launched into Russia, and there wouldn’t be any consequences for that?

Western leaders really have the attitude of children who think war is something that happens on tv.
Let’s keep escalating until WW3 breaks out…yeah!
- Yeah tell putin to get the hell out of Ukraine and there is no more "escalation".
  
  Sure let me call him and tell him that.
- Conflict is over as soon as Putin leaves Ukraine.
  
  Nukes are going to be flying soon and WW3 will start with this thinking! Diplomacy failed in 2022 now its Russian territory. We treat this war as a reactionary spasm instead of taking precautionary steps to stop these wars before they start.
- Well "that'll fix the economy"
Please, do it and do us all a favor. To be precise, the whole of Europe would gladly support that decision
- Nah, they're already in the Brexit corner of shame for the next 15 years.
- It would make sense to take out the UK first. In recent history, the rest of Europe just roll on their back and surrender or get taken by force.
  
  Take out your only realistic competition first. Genius move I'd say.

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