Game Freak has been allegedly hacked, with source codes for Pokemon games reportedly leaked

Terabytes of the same game, just in different colors.

Sort of. The same game, over and over, each time in a different colour, each time with a higher pixel density, each time a little bit worse.
Which is exactly why I stopped playing after Gen 2, which was the peak of the series IMO. If you want to see everything the series has to offer, just play Gold/Silver (or their remakes on the DS). No reason to waste time and money on any other Pokémon game.
- I kinda agree, but B2/W2 was actually peak Pokémon. You should give those games a go, it's samey but polished to rubbish-bag shiny perfection.
- Gen 4 was peak IMO, both the new Pokemon were excellent as well as the best remakes ever made. Gen 4 has Platinum and HeartGold SoulSilver which are the best games in the series.
- Radical Red and Polished Crystal are peak, in my opinion. I can't go back to the lack of special/physical split, it's just awful.
- Pokemon Black/White 1 & 2 are as close to that as you want. Great story, amazing songs that i still hum to this day, and the designs are as solid as Gen 1 and 2.

Next headline "Hackers disappointed that the hacked source code is apparently just the same as the last 16 games"

I laughed way too hard at this

In my head this is a retribution for financing hackers that attacked Internet Archive and nobody can convince me otherwise

Nintendo was responsible for that?
- It's like Lenin said, you look for the person who will benefit... And, uh... You know, you'll, uh... You know what I mean.
  
  The Dude
  
  „Who benefits the most” from attacking Internet Archive? Big copyright holders whose content was distributed via Internet Archive. The reason given by the group claiming responsibility is so silly I don’t believe it.
  
  [edit] I’ll add to this comment so that I don’t have to reply to everyone specifically.
  
  I don’t believe that if you wanted to attack USA (as people claiming responsibility did) you’d attack it in a way that benefits big corporations most. It sounds like a flimsy distraction from true perpetrators.
This is a conspiracy theory I'm completely behind. With all the moves Nintendo has made recently this was the first thing I thought when Internet Archive was compromised

Good. Couldn't have happened to a worse company other than Nintendo.

Now people can verify if Gamefreak's excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games are real. And verify how low effort their games are.

Nintendo aren't the worst company. Not even the worst gaming company. Not when they have competition like Ubisoft and Warner Brothers and EA and Activision.

Of course, if it weren't for the presence of the aforementioned companies, Nintendo would be the worst.
- I mean they take like 33% of that guy named bowser’s life earnings. Which are severely reduced because they also got him thrown in jail for a felony.
  
  That’s pretty uniquely evil
- As bad as they are, EA isn't sending lawyers to every fan project that revives their old games, they are just regular greedy, not petty greedy. Ubisoft to this day ignores Rayman Redemption too.
- I'd say they're not even the worst of the big three console manufacturers. The stuff Microsoft and Sony do to the gaming industry is just as bad, but that's ignoring that they both have their fingers in a lot of other technological pies where they do some really bad shit.
Source code is only for HG/SS and B2W2, so we still can't verify anything about the newer genes
- Damn. Too bad. But those are both interesting games to have the source code of.
- Is the source code for HG/SS the latest or is it from an earlier build?
Now people can verify if Gamefreak’s excuses for not including all Pokemon in each game since the Switch games are real. And verify how low effort their games are.

Wasn't it true, but due to time not technical issues. Basically they keep redoing/remaking from scratch sprites instead of re-using them.
- Nah, some folks got a hold of the wire frames for the sprites from the that version and the previous version and showed most were identical. Of those that weren't, many were only slightly modified, and clearly not generated from scratch.
- Evidence wouldn't be as concrete as source code, but there was plenty of evidence from data miners. Gamefreak kept moving goal posts when it came to why it wasn't feasible for Sword and Shield to have all the Pokémon which is my frustration with that situation. I think they complained about the capacity of the cartridge the games were stored on was one, which was readily proven wrong. Dont quote me on that. But I do think the situation with the models was ultimately the case.
- Nope. The models have stayed the same from X&Y to Sword and Shield. Only in Scarlet and Violet have they been given an upgrade.

Patent the code and sue Nintendo when they release the game.

You can't patent code, and it's automatically copyright protected. Nintendo just needs to prove they wrote the code originally, which should be easy.
- You can patent the features that the code makes up.
  
  Also, Nintendo has patented features existing in other games long before, and it hasn't stopped them. The current lawsuit against palworld contains patent claims for features they do not actually own, which is why they need 100 different lawsuits coming their way so they get a taste of their own medicine.
  
  They have an easy time suing one or two entities, but 100 different ones will have a significant economic impact.
- I hate nintendo
Omg LMAO!!! This is actually genius.
- It's nonsensical, so not really.

Somebody had to find out whether there really was a Mew under the truck in Red and Blue after all.

Someone here recently blew my mind with this video, time for me to pay it forward.
- So the glitch never existed but he programmed it in ? Do I understand this right ?

Pokemon could be made in RPG maker in like 5 minutes.

Pokemon Infinite Fusion is in fact made in RPG maker and is imo the best Pokemon game out there.
- If only I can figure out how to get it running on my Steam Deck.
That's probably something a person who has no clue about Pokemon could say. You underestimate how many mechanics older games contain, since like half of them are not obvious for casual players. Although I am not sure about gens newer than IV (Diamond and Pearl is the most recent I've played), since I haven't played them. But most people agree that the best games were around that period (Gen IV, or V), and they only become worse over the years.
- You got me. It would probably take more than 5 minutes to do. You saw through my web of lies.
- It is a menu driven battler that ran on a game boy. It doesn’t take a programming savant to write this, no matter how many mechanics you bolt on top.
It's a standard RPG but replace the equipment with animals. Done.
- Now I kind of want a Flintstones RPG.
Gameboy studio in 30.

I mean, people have already created the majority of their good games from scratch so...

Oh I promise you that isn't the point.

Love how everyone in the comments are shitting on Nintendo and Game Freak lmao

They really, really, really, really earned it.
I swear to god, the Lemmy hive mind is even more intense than their predecessor.
- That's like whining that everyone hates Blizzard or Ubisoft because of some hive mind mentality. Could it be that maybe it's just a commonly hated company based off their unethical actions over the last 10+ years?
- Yes, that's nice and all...but have you tried typing out "Fuck Nintendo" in a comment?
- I know you’re being downvoted, but I had the same thought. I see more outcry over nintendo than other companies. Yes, Nintendo has done bad things, but if I were to go back and browse Reddit I feel like the level of hate on Lemmy is much higher. I have to assume it’s due to the open source nature of Lemmy and it’s ideals.
- Wow, everyone left another platform and were inspired to leave for the same reason, as a group. Now they're showing extreme similarities in other ways! When will the madness stop??!
i got a papercut on a playing card back in aught three

I'm waiting in for the headline in a couple days or so:

Another hack at Gamefreak: Hackers upload fixed source codes

Unknown hackers have fixed the frame rate issues while upgrading the graphics quality to the level of the earliest Switch titles like Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

Forgot: “Nintendo is suing all of them!”
Lol, but Game Freak's code is spaghetti, to the point where decomps are easier to read than the actual source files.

Don't nobody want that trash codebase.

Hobbyists have made Pokemon clones in their basement for decades. They never needed the source code.

If I'm not mistaken, there's an entire online RPG ran by hobbyists.
- It's not about the code. It's about sending a message.
- Maybe this was an intentional leak. Now the Nintendo lawyers can claim they've used stolen proprietary code?
- They literally never introduce any new concepts to their games I think the last new innovation in the pokemon game is supposed to allow you to have two vs two. That was about 10 years ago I think

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You get what you fucking deserve, Nintendo.

Not even close to enough but at least it's a start!!

Noooo what a tragedy!

Good. Fuck them. Steal everything of value from them.

It's beta builds of old games. It's only valuable to super fans who wanted to see what could have been.
- There are leaks of 3 future games also. Gen 10, 11 and a MMO

Can I already get my hopes up for some PC ports?

Probably not, that'd be piracy, and I'm sure that Nintendo will sue them to hell. 😅
- @Dremor@lemmy.world and @simple@lemm.ee.
  
  I'm surely talking out of my rear-end, but isn't possible for an eventual developer to go the way of the SM64 port: having to provide a rom in order to get the assets? As far as I know, those responsible of said port haven't been bothered by Nintendo.
- Tor
Technically yes but I doubt anyone would go through the effort only to be sued into oblivion.
There are a lot of fangames that contain regions and their Pokemon from original games, with some enhancements. You could try these.

Also design documents like the dude that mated with an octillery lol. The concept of people and pokemon breeding was still referenced in sinoh, but in a way tamer way.

Clearly I've been out of the series too long, what the fuck?
- This is what made it in, but there are more of those myths that do get pretty dark for this series that was uncovered in that hack, also a beta build of BW.

Oh no!

Anyways, is that new Palworld island any good

The people who will be most happy to have it would be the wiimmfi team and the devs running pokemon classic network.

They can finally see what the implementation of gen 5 ranked battles and game sync was, instead of having to reverse engineer it all.

Everyone else is probably only interested in asset data, Nintendo switch 2, or finding exploits for homebrew lol.

They can't use this code at all, it would be a surefire way to get the project shut down. Reverse engineering is the only way to operate something like that legally.
- They can see how it's done and code their own thing. They don't have to cut and paste the code, just know how its done.
No romhacker or homebrew developer worth their salt will touch any of this. Using leaked material is legally significantly more dangerous than REing. I look forward to seeing the TCRF pages, though.

Ive no interest but hopefully there are torrents soon for those who are interested.

It's a huge deal for hardcore fans, but I am overall against these practices, since they are just illegal, period.
- Don't conflate legality with morality.

Time to clone mewtwo

This is, reportedly, a comment under, reportedly, a post

The leak was confirmed a few hours after the post was made, so it's not just based on reports anymore.

I've been holding onto a pet conspiracy theory that BW2 was a last-minute change from Gray, loose ends and plot holes felt too rushed. Curious if the leaked source code will corroborate this.

lets go, hope now we get to play these pokemon games on PC

Do you mean natively? Cause the alternative already exists heavily
- I tried searching for the new scarlet and violet games, most videos on yt were clickbait... Or I am just bad at searching

Now that's really interesting! I wonder where I can go to see this stuff...

Nintendo deserves only the worst for killing yuzu and ryujinx

Fuck yeah, going to compile me some free Pokémon!

source codes

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/20455/is-it-wrong-to-use-the-word-codes-in-a-programming-context

Not a native speaker, but to me it sounds correct in this context, since it's about the source codes of multiple games (versus the source code of a singular game/project). Similar to how "peoples" can be a correct plural when talking about multiple groups of people.

Is there a remind me bot like reddit?

Surprised someone hasn't made one yet

Edit: someone developed it but nobody is hosting it lol. I would host it but my server is broken right now.

https://github.com/iceHtwoO/lemmyremindyou
@remindme@mstdn.social 1 day
Hopefully not a public one. It would be perfect if it was a direct message (or even better, built in to your client) but all those request comments and responses from the bot were basically spam to everyone else!

I am seeing a lot of negative comments on here and while I agree the franchise has grown stale I can also say the personal emails of employees being leaked is shit and shouldn't happen. Nintendo had to have their day and it came and here we are but it sucks employees are at the butt of the leak.

Also as a fan I welcome competition and games like PalWorld but the classic Pokemon games hold true to my heart and some of these leaks are really dn cool while others set a concerning precedent for what data companies leave laying around and for how long.

For those of you that are interested there are some really interesting things to come out of this for fans.

Source code to games sucks in one manner but gives modders and ROM hackers the opportunity to do many things. It is tools like this Nintendo should have just embraced providing or should allow the community to have community versions to do what they want with it after 25+ years. Maybe it would he less intriguing if those tools were open sourced and the may hidden items were just openly shared. There would be less incentive to steal if they innovated on tools or left old ones to the past to be what they are. However, likewise, legally it is their IP to do with what they want.

Source code is one but straight up editing tools for how they created e-card code for e-card readers. 3DS Dev Kits and Pokemon Beta games sets a whole other wheel in motion and gives players real power to do what will absolutely hurt Nintendo's bottom line and that is develop. That has to be a real wake up call to Nintendo.

Seeing leaks about the anime, movies, and future games is a bummer to me and I don't want any part of that. I would rather those stay a mystery so I can be ready to play them and even if you don't like Pokemon or Nintendo that is fine some of us hate Nintendo and like Pokemon because it was there for us as a child when your parents are going through a divorce. (TMI I know) point there is stuff adult me loves seeing because kid me would never have thought some of this would shed so much light on Nintendo's development and scrapped ideas and processes. While Nintendo should and very much will take action on their IP. I really think if they want to learn from this they will tackle damages on upcoming films, shows, and games. Instead of being embarrassed by old stuff they should just say, "fuck it" and embrace the community doing with it what they want. We are talking about 20 year old data in some cases and tools most people have already debugged, replicated, and deciphered.

That has to be a real wake up call to Nintendo.

That's optimistic thinking. Nintendo doesn't learn, they just bulldoze.
It's great seeing the emails, seeing the team so happy about BW but then receiving the west's criticism of "I can't use charizard for the 5th time in a row :(" was disheartening, so they course corrected with XY and we got that turd.
- B/W was the best Pokemon games and the fact so many people got pissy at new material with a solid story and some of the best music to this day, tells me Pokemon fans don't know what a good game is.
  
  Same for Sword/Shield being one of the top sellers.

Good.

HA HA

let the modding begin

Maximum Poggers.

O boi