He's not really gonna get rid of the ACA right?

blame everything on mexicans

I'm sorry, it's all my fault and I take full responsibility. I'll make tamales with atole for the victims of my reckless Mexican behavior. 😔

“Illegals smuggle our patriotic, expensive insulin out of the US, and we gotta build a wall facing the other direction to keep them in this time! We’ll use tariffs to get Mexico to pay for it!”

trans muslim librarians are coming for your pizza

So what type of pizza do they like? Gotta get ready for January!

oh shit, the q-anon nuts are going to sprout again arn't they... le sigh

I'm over giving a fuck about them at this point. It's tired, old hat, doesn't really even bother me anymore. I know they're saying shit to enrage people but when you see enough of it, it eventually just stops registering. I'm sure they'll still find takers for their stupid games but i also suspect others are also moving on from giving a fuck too. How long can you really play games like that before you finally see them for what they are? Bunch of miserable twats trying to drag everyone else down to their level. I take comfort knowing i live a happier life than them, that all they have is hate. It's actually kind of sad, really

Hah! Look at you, thinking you'll be able to divorce in a few years from now. Haven't seen project 2025?

Well I kept saying that and the responses were- without fail- "you first, tough guy!", "go back to twitter, ammosexual!", "if we dont respect free speech for Nazis then they wont respect ours when they gain power!", and "you're the REAL Nazi!!"

So I hope trumptards get every single fucking thing they voted for.

Faces! Delicious faces!

Non stop fillibusters for 4 years?

Is that our only hope?

That has gotta be hugely unpopular right?
People would absolutely flip out if we go back to "preexisting conditions".

The Affordable Care Act, the US public marketplace for private insurance. Ignorantly referred to by conservatives as socialism.

Affordable care act, also referred to as Obamacare. The name Obamacare was coined by republicans the actual name of the legislation was the affordable care act

What was said here is correct, but I wanted to add that almost all the things everyone hates about ACA was also mostly brought on by Republicans that wouldn't vote for it unless sections of it were modified. Democrats took what they could get and figured it could be revisited later to fix that at some point. Instead, the opposite happened, and it was handicapped even more by Republicans and here we are, where most people just believe democrats forced this awful plan upon us that is making everyone pay huge amounts of money.

Obamacare. Also known as Romneycare.

Not sure what kinda project they have planned for 2025 🤔

Nah, don’t mock the remorseful it’ll dig them in. Mock the unrepentant

Tell them Trump didn't win, Putin did.

Since Trump is just a Russian asset that is selling US state secrets to Putin.

Someone needs to keep a record. Every action the Trump admin takes and chapter, page and paragraph of where that appears in Project 2025. Just to demonstrate the degree to which he's doing exactly what was planned in that plan he tried to distance himself from and doesn't support but also considered the "plan for our movement".

Really emphasize the degree to which the leopards outright told everyone they were going to be eating faces. Up front, across hundred of pages in detail.

They don't think about any of the social programs that they depend on. It's about hurting the right people. A platform built on hate. Then they wonder why the leopards ate their face.

People vote based on what they think the person is like. Harris is boring and the same old. Trump tells it like it is, that's exciting!
Nevermind that boring is what you want for government, you want everything to just work. But no, gotta be emotional about it.

As a school bus driver, I work with a bunch of older people who are already utterly dependent on social security and medicare to have any semblance of a life that doesn't involve living in a tent in the park and dumpster diving for dinner. They are mostly trumpers. We're all Teamsters as well, and a few are married lesbians (and these are the most rabidly pro-trump of all). I have made a few attempts to convince them that trump (and Republicans for fucking decades) are out to destroy social security, medicare, unions and gay rights (among lots of other things) - but they reacted to me like I had grown an extra head. Somehow they've convinced themselves that the GOP is the original source and the protector of these things.

"I didn't think leopards would eat MY face"

-Leopard Eating Faces Party voter-

Just like the first 4 years.

Assuming they live that long.

Gays and Jews will also be blamed

when they call somebody something, its always a projection. always.

If John McCain hadn't basically gotten out of his death bed to vote no on repeal, it would have been gone.

With Trump in the White House, Republican control of the Senate and likely the House, and a stacked Supreme Court, there's nothing to stop him from tearing down whatever he wants. There doesn't have to be a replacement plan. Insurance companies will applaud the end of ACA mandates, which will let them sell policies without minimum government requirements for coverage and they can go back to denying coverage for "pre-existing"conditions. It's going to screw over a lot of people.

That's not entirely true. Everyone forgets there was an individual mandate penalty that his administration & congress repealed.

Anyone remember how the ACA assessed a tax on those who were not insured? (with income based exceptions). The tax was meant to feed into the ACA and keep plans in the marketplace cheaper, and to stop the program from adding to the federal deficit.

Once the trump administration came in they worked with Congress to eliminate that tax penalty.

Here is a helpful article that talks about the penalty and what the early findings showed when it was removed.

he didnt have the fanatic support then that he has now

He wanted to get re-elected last time.

I think it's a good question. My take, and I dunno if it's right, is that they fucked up with Roe vs. Wade, and they know it --- they were the dog that caught the car, so to speak. But once you catch the car, what do you do with it? It's no longer something you can use to activate your base. They pivoted the messaging from "abortion bad" to "states rights," but I think that's less of a hot button issue.

So I'm really hoping it's the same with the ACA --- they want to talk about how Dems are socialists and socialism is bad, but they don't necessarily want to "catch the car" here. I do think that any changes will be explicitly about "Obamacare" and any replacement (even if it's exactly the same) will be pushed as "Trumpcare."

I'm probably way off though, and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they indeed repeal the ACA. And as much as I feel like a horrible person saying it, I have pretty much zero sympathy for those about to get their face eaten by the leopards --- I voted D, and I'm not reliant on the ACA, so basically sorry, but go fuck yourself (not you personally, just the regretful Trump voters --- I am deeply sympathetic to others affected by this).

It's just fear mongering at this point

If Trump repeals the ACA it's Harris' fault! I'm a Democrat who was too good to vote!

What do you do for the remaining 4-1/2 minutes?

JD Vance was made his running mate cause JD Vance is down with project 2025 and will be doing the actual running of things.

So it doesnt matter what Trump is off doing. JD Vance will be back at the office, doing the nasty work that trump will rubber stamp.

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That would be crazy if this gets reintroduced.

I agree. Tolerance of such extreme idiocy is unhealthy for society.

Shame is a paralyzing emotion. It does not bring change. Guilt does.

I could not agree more. This is the same bunch that tries to make being liberal a dirty word. They use liberal as epithet, along with things like environmentalist, community organizer, social justice (SJW), or veg*n ("soy boy"). Also: being educated, or in fact, aspiring to anything more than just being a huckster, a sportsball star, or, more recently, an "influencer".

About time to start shaming THEM.

Nah, somehow it'll be Biden's fault... google backfire effect, the more you challenge their beliefs the more they fight for them, even when proven wrong. They do not learn. They will not ever learn. They do not want to learn.

No they won't. That's a big reason why they never change.

Better append /s

No. Completely fits, including as per the definition outlined in the sidebar. Leopard: "I eat faces!" Trumpanzee: *votes for the Leopard* Trumpanzee after the election wondering: "He's not REALLY actually going to eat our faces, right?"

This was the one reason I wasn't cheering for the filibuster to be repealed. The 60 vote threshold was the only thing that saved it last time. They will only be able to realistically get rid of it if they abolish the filibuster. Which would be a net win for Democrats, so they likely won't do it.

Didn’t they have control of the House and Senate last time and still couldn’t get it repealed before?

Repealing the bill would mean revoking tens to hundreds of millions from various states. A lot of the healthcare and health insurance industry (which is dominated by right-wing financial interests) sees ACA as a valuable income stream. Its hard to uproot for the same reason Social Security and Medicaire/caid are hard to uproot. There's simply too much money running through the system and too many private interests invested in the flow.

The ACA is a massive bill that affects basically every part of healthcare in the US. That being said, here are some of the major parts that affect people who get their coverage through their employer:

1. Minimum coverage standards - The ACA sets minimums about what must be covered by employer insurance, including drugs, procedures, family planning and mental health care.
2. No lifetime caps - Before the ACA insurers could set a lifetime cap on how much they would pay out for any individual. This meant that people who had long term chronic or very expensive medical needs would get kicked off their insurance eventually and have to figure something else out. Or, more likely, either go into massive medical debt or forego care, or both.
3. Pre-existing coverage - Before the ACA insurers could choose not cover issues that you got before you signed up with that insurer. So, again, if you had a chronic condition and changed jobs, you could lose all coverage for those treatments.

There is probably a lot more, but those are the big ones for most people.

Your employer offers you insurance by pooling its employees together to get a bulk rate. Your employer then subsidizes your plan (in most cases) and pays a fixed amount for your participation.

Essentially, the government did the same thing except it pools everyone who purchases through them.

Fun fact: if everyone purchased through the exchange, it would overall be cheaper for everyone but then tHaT iS sOcIaLiSm!

The ACA ensures you are covered for preexisting conditions, birth control, etc.

back when the aca was new and neat, i was unemployed long enough to need it. back then the govt subsidized premiums enough to make it affordable. earlier this year i was unemployed again for a bit and looked into it again. literally no better than cobra. all it offered now was helping you sign up for a full price policy the cheapest of which was $850/m with no subsidy or even tax break at all. coulda been because i live in texas but i dunno. didnt go through with it

You only need simple majority to pass most bills. You need 60 votes to bypass any filibuster attempts (this is called cloture).

There's also standing that "budget neutral bills over 10 years" need less red tape before being voted on.

I think they have what they need to repeal ACA, but not enough to shut down filibustering

You forget that we will have a president who ignores the rule of law.

He'll issue an executive order shutting down the exchange website, minimize the exchange workforce to 0, and require everyone to apply by mail.

Red states did just this with SNAP benefits and did exactly what they intended.

In MN, they passed a lot of progressive bills with a 1 seat margin in both houses.

Trump promised to get rid of Obamacare the first time around, it didn't happen then and I doubt it'll happen now.