Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit

LOL, Bernie knows that's never going to happen. He's just reminding the world of an empty promise that trump made, and openly offering his help so that Trump can't say the Democrats blocked him. He'll still say it, but there will be readily available evidence to the contrary, not that that's ever mattered before.

Trump Admin: Cap interest rates at 10%, but also we repeal the thirteenth amendment.

Democrats: No! What is wrong with you?!

Republicans: DEMONRATS WON'T WORK WITH US TO CAP INTEREST RATES AND ALSO THEY DRINK SMOOTHIES MADE OF BABIES!

Republican Voting Base: [Thunderous applause. 90% voter turnout. 99% voter loyalty.]

Everyone Else: I dunno, both parties seem the same. [Sub-50% voter turnout. Interfactional backstabbing intensifies.]

I know Bernie is being polite and playing politics, but let’s be honest: Trump keeping this promise is about as likely as Hell freezing over.

It's not polite, it's calling him out. Trump will say/lie about anything. At one point Trump said exactly this. He didn't mean it, he just said some shit.

Bernie is repeating his own words because occasionally Trump says something good without any intent to follow up.

So Bernie is taking him at his word. He knows Trump will never do it, but if he can call the hypocrite out and trick him into agreeing, why not?

To want to talk about 4D Chess? There it is.
- I guess we'll see, but I think we can all appreciate his willingness to go straight to brass tacks and hold Trump's feet to the flame while the entire Democrat Party leadership is still busy clutching their pearls.
- Yeah I was gonna say this reads like "no balls"
- I hope you're right, but even if you are, the words "I look forward to working with the Donald Trump administration" coming from Bernie of all people is just all kinds of wrong.
  
  He should know that fascists never negotiate in good faith. This feels less 4d chess and more "peace in our time"..

Theres about 0% chance of this happening without something totally catastrophic being bundled alongside it, like allowing creditors to come into debtors homes and beat them with sticks.

I'd consider taking one beating vs 25% interest forever.
I'm thinking they want to put discharging debt on the chopping block.

Strange how every time somebody takes an idea Republicans spouted that would actually help people, and decide to run with it, conservatives suddenly aren't so keen on the idea anymore.

What about this makes you think they aren't? Let's be real, Trump hasn't even had a chance to renege on this promise yet, since he won't be president for another two months.
- What about this makes you think they aren’t?
  
  Because he's a compulsive liar and a Republican.

Bernie calling out bullshit yet again.

Goddamn I fucking love Bernie.

Somehow I don't think Mr "Pro-Business" will hamper banks' efforts to fleece us.

Trump promises require GOP to back him up to ever get close to being implemented. GOP have always voted against bank regulation/extortion limiting. People earning tips are not big GOP donors, so fuck them. Taxes on SS are only paid by richest SS earners, but GOP have been going around on trying to get overall SS cuts.

Any promise not Project 2025 is politician lip moving meant to bring Project 2025.

Since trump's party controls the entire gov right now he is going to be pissed when he learns he can't blame his failures on the dems for most of the country.
- He absolutely still can, his voting bloc is full of low information voters that just want validation for the racist/misogynistic hate they feel
- Key dem senators were bribed to sabotage Biden's climate and other agendas. Confirmations for any anti pharma/war cabinet picks are certainly bribable. Gaetz is no problem, even if fuss made, though. There is some hope that the stupidity of destroying EVs and IRA gets blocked. Spending $1T to deport millions is going to have lobbyists intervene too.
- Watch him do it anyway.
I hope you are wrong

What that would actually mean is a complete lock-out on credit cards for the poor.

I don't see that as a real problem. Because as it is now, credit cards are something poor people should avoid at all costs.
- No, it's a thing idiots should avoid at all costs.
  
  A card with a 2% reward across the board(Fidelity for instance) can be used as a proxy for your debit card week to week.
  
  It builds my credit, gives me a group of attack dogs to sic on anyone who rips me off, and gives me a cushion if I ever need it. If you never exceed your expenses and never reach beyond your means, it's no different in consequence than paying with anything else, with a little added bonus credit and reward.
  
  It's people and their lack of self control that ruin credit cards.
Oh God, who will the Credit Card companies exploit?!
Considering how many Americans have crippling credit card debt, especially poor people, would that be worse? I'm sure they'd still offer those credit builder cards with low limits that you have to deposit collateral for the limit.
- I'd expect a lot more use of buy now pay later schemes like Klarna.
  
  It's similar to a credit card, but prevents build up of crippling debt.
  
  I personally use my credit card and pay in full each month, not because I need the credit, but because in the UK you get the benefit of Section 75 protection on purchases. I've used that a few times when companies have gone bust. If I'd paid on debit card I'd have been screwed.
- Don’t Americans have a thing called Credit Score. If you are not paying off debt you don’t build up a score and good luck getting a mortgage without one.
Sure, if we presuppose that credit cards exist as a way for a middleman company to make a huge profit and pay their CEO tens of millions of dollars annually. If we instead consider them a regulatable utility, the necessary rates for viable operation go pretty far down. The business model of “convenience is free or even costs less than cash for those who already have plenty, and this convenience is funded by the destitute who are being held down by the exact same people” is also suspect to begin with, and I’d rather DiSrUpT tHe EcOnOmY than remain complicit, which I am
Actually asking, not rhetorical: if poor people are already getting charged based on what they can afford, would this policy exert a downward force on prices?

So way less financing options, slightly more buying outright?
- Problem is the assumption that prices would go down if some people cannot afford it.
  
  Whats happening instead is people going hungry and homeless.
  
  The reason for this is that Supply:Demand Equilibrium is further up in price range where fewer sales at higher value yields the maximum profit.
Doubt.

Even 10% is absolutely insane, especially with the ability to directly syphon their income.

Is Burnie trying to duck season rabbit season Trump? I'm actually curious to see if this works

No. He's calling trump out.
Yeah. One never can tell which way old men with possible dementia will twitch.

Hell, maybe he'll have a stroke and wake up with integrity and a conscience. Weirder things have happened to nicer people, after all.

Why doesn’t Bernie understand Trump was just joking when he said that?!

Talk about owning the libs!

Bernie can’t even get a joke!

Just a prank bro! A social experiment!
Just like all that election fraud stuff. Totally joking guys. Got you good eh?
Bernie can’t even get a joke!

I hope you are joking.

Imagine that, scooping up cold butter on a spatula and slapping it indiscriminately on your partner’s exposed butt.

Go on...
- Next the step involves a little setup before hand. You use microwaved butter and a funnel, then drizzle it while its hot.
Room temperature butter is superior in both sound and splatter.
- Agreed.
I'm not sure I want to imagine that in this context. Other contexts, no problemo. Just not this one.
You don't?
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Might be my background - lived half my life in a country where credit cards are interest-free for religious purposes - but 10% still seems insane.

Compare that to the ~30% I've seen, that's sadly an amazing shift (lol, which won't ever happen with the fascist caucus), but I commend Bernie for trying.
I'd never heard of this, how do the banks make any money on the card, annual fees or something?
- They already make 2-3% on every purchase
- Processing or transaction fees. Anytime you use your card for a purchase the bank gets a cut of that. This fee can range from .1% to 4%, depending on the credit card processor.
- Yes, we had a flat annual fee for use.
Which country has interest free credit cards due to religious purposes? I googled it but did not find anything.
- I know that is how Saudi Arabia works. Other sharia countries do the same too, from what I am to understand.
- Usury is forbidden (haram) in Islam, so many Muslim majority countries do in fact do this.

ha ha ha ha ha ha riiiiight good one bernie

If Dems all act eager to act on Trump's actually good promises (untaxed tips for instance), it'll bite the GOP that much more when he backs out of those promises
- I hope so, but they'll just blame the Dems anyway and their core voters will just believe it.
- That's literally never worked. I mean I get the idea, but it's literally never worked because republicans get elected predominantly by the deliberately uninformed.

Who knows? Good things might happen while Trump golfs and rambles. Probably not, but it could theoretically happen.

We need to convince Trump that the way to win a legacy is to deliver something like universal health care. Present it as a display of personal power and his unique talents, and as a branding moment like no other (beyond Obamacare). 'The Democrats couldn't do it in 50 years, but I rammed it through in 2. Got the chair of Cigna on the phone and fired him personally. Now we all have Trumpcare and even Hillary has to praise it through gritted teeth...."

The GOP tied themselves so tightly to his star that they'd have to own the pivot, or find some way to retract their allegiance. And the rest of us could at least enjoy the historic worst-person-you-know-makes-a-greatipoint moment.
I'm sure he has some evil son of a bitch on staff whose sole job is to ensure that nothing positive that trump lies about ever accidentally comes true.

What good things that Trump did promise? I am surprised that he promised this even though we know that it won't happen.

Populists promise lots of good things; it’s just that most ring-wing populists tend to have their fingers crossed behind their back.
- How anyone could trust a man that cant even pay his contractors is beyond me.
- It's not about right wing or left wing populists. All populists lie because the only thing they want is to see their face on TV and to be in power.
I work blue collar, and lots of us are hopeful he will do the tax free overtime. I think he was just saying that, and I didn't vote for him, but that would be game changer.
- Would it be a game changer? It means you can do overtime without being taxed for it, right? Or maybe less taxed.
  
  That sounds like a quick and dirty way to exhaust the population even more in order to keep the bread and circus going on.
  
  So you got the folks working 60-100 hours a week then because it makes them a lot more money, so they are just slaving their life away. Wouldn't a better fix be raising minimum wages?
What good things that Trump did promise?

Flying cars.

I'm not joking.

Bernie should run for president one of these days...

Hey biscuit

You forgot the butter.

Trying to get that from the userer-in-chief is gonna be a nogo

I agree with you, but I can't stop the mental image of Trump pacing back and forth worrying about his credit card debt only to concoct a scheme to become president to lower his own debts interest rate. Obviously, that's not what happened but the thought is just so funny to me in the moment.

Trump lied, he serves the rich bankers

It doesn't matter if he lied. Whenever he accidentally says the correct thing, he needs to be praised. That's how you get him to do stuff. Bernie has the right idea here. Pat this dumb motherfucker on the back and make him feel smart every time he has a broken-clock moment. That way he'll follow through.
Didn't Democrats literally just take him to court over fleecing those bankers by overvaluing his own properties in order to qualify for a lower interest rate? What exactly makes you think he's in bed with them?

Ok, time and place Mr biscuit?

You can call me Pooh bear. It's gonna be honey butter.

Wow, Bernie is willing to work with actual Hitler?? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I read this more as “put up or shut up”. The donvict spews forth floods of verbal diarrhea, hoping no one is willing to look too closely or even remember the specific colors and chunks. This is Bernie fishing out a juicy chunk and saying: let’s go
- I agree with you, but did you really have to use the phrase "fishing out a juicy chunk" in the context of diarrhea?
I know right?

Say goodbye to rewards cards if this happens.

Goodbye. Now give me the 10%.
- As someone who has never paid a dime in interest on any card I've ever had, and shops around for the best reward options.... Yeah, give us the 10%!
- Do you realize that you can pay 0% if you pay a card in full, and still get the reward?
  
  Why are you trying to take something away from me just because you're terrible with money?
They shouldn't exist in the first place.

The space for them exists within the monology over transactions that shouldn't generate margins that high.
Nah. Rewards cards live and die on transaction fees. They generally go to people with credit knowledge that know to pay off the card at the end of the month.
- Transaction AND interchange++ fees.
  
  This is why many shops won't take AMEX cards: 3.95% transaction fee! GTFO
If the mechanism by which I get 1% cash back is that it directly comes from the poor...good. this is a good thing. You are a bad person if you think it's not.
- Technically, the cashback they pay you likely comes directly out of the transaction fees they collect, which means that after expenses (for running the infrastructure etc.), they make little to no profit on swipes. Which means they have to make profit somewhere else, which, you guessed it, is fleecing those who don't pay their balance off every month for as much as they can get away with.
I mean that's certainly a possibility but if it helps some people get out of debt, I won't be mad about it.

I don't understand, why use credit cards if 25% interest rate is charged?

I don’t understand, why don’t they just eat cake?
The interest rate is charged if you don't make your payments. Otherwise, you get rewards each time you spend which makes things a little cheaper.
- The “rewards” come off the backs of poor people paying these usurious interest rates.
Starve now, or later?
Because it's very difficult to live in our society without a credit history.
I use my credit card all the time, and it's set to auto pay off all of it every month, so there is never any interest charged. It basically delays the time my money leaves my bank account from the time of purchase to up to a month later, with no downside, while building credit history. The interest may be 300%, I don't care because I'm never charged it.
- I do the same, but I think they were asking for people who can't pay it off. Those are absurd rates.
- Why even have it then, and not just direct debit? Or is that something American banks don't offer?