Het Pijnstillersparadijs: Europese Zelfbeheersing vs. Amerikaanse Pillenfeest

Ngl I ibuprofen does kinda taste good

Really not much exaggeration here

Also at least in my country I can call in sick if I have a headache, will be paid for the day and there is no number of paid-time-off-days, which will be subtracted by one when I do so. The employer continues to pay up to 6 weeks of salary if you need to stay at home due to sickness, and for a period longer than 3 days you need a dr to confirm you're sick. The number of sick days per year depend on you actually being sick - I was baffled when I learned this is a fixed number in the US (at least for some) . I guess the motivation to work sick when you have a limited number of paid sick days also contributes to the usage of pain killers.

Yeah, it's pretty funny considering how absurd it is.

It is funny since they keep voting in ways that make their healthcare worse instead of better so why should we feel pity?

And they got their propaganda machines to thank for it.

Namely fox news, Aon, shit like joe Rogan,etc..

Still better off than the people in the countries you coup to install dictators.

Calm down liberals its something called "dork humor" 😎

That's really sad.

This is my mother for the last year or so because of rotoscoliosis, a bulging disc, and arthritis in her shoulders.

She can't really get any form of treatment because the only insurance she can afford is a high-deductable plan, which means she would have to pretty much pay for the entire treatment out of pocket.

But they'll only recommend the surgery after trying muscle relaxers ten times over the course of a year.

Yes, it's a thing. The idea behind it is that you don't want to become dependent on the pills to the point that they have less effect or that you feel worse without them. Sincerely, a Dutch non-techno non-DJ.

To be fair we also have it much easier with our healthcare that doesn't know the concept of sick-days. When you're sick you just don't go to work and your healthcare pays half your salary while your employer continues paying the other half.

So we can actually afford to stay home in bed and let our bodies do the work while we rest.

I'm Dutch and I only take paracetamol when I cannot sleep or function due to pain/illness. I've never taken something stronger like Ibuprofen in my life. When I'm ill I usually just lie in bed and wait for it to blow over

Yeah, in the UK they reduced the amount you can buy at once too, so drugs like paracetamol and ibuprofen only come in 16 tablet packs and you can only buy 2 packs at a shop., It's helped lower suicides quite well.

People here have a real aversion to taking tablets a lot of the time. I have to convince people to take regular paracetamol (which is non addictive and doesn't have side effects so long as you don't take more than the recommended amount) after they have had surgery semi-regularly.

Ibuprofen is pretty fucking strong. I stick with CBD and paracetamol and I’m bedridden with a painful disease.

I just don't think it's a good idea to take pills without asking a doctor, I'm not a medical professional

yes. Pain killers (if you take way too many) can be incredibly bad for your liver, and (while almost impossible with paracetamol and ibuprofen) you can become 'immune' to them, making them work less/not at all.

In the UK you're limited to 32 pills of paracetamol(acetaminophen in NA) per purchase. Less if they're high dose.

Yes, it's real. Just another case of "the European mind cannot comprehend".

Ibuprofen is famous for making men less fertil and it can cause sterility to the unborn baby when took by pregnant women. Paracetamol on the other hand is very bad for the liver. Better took these two very carefully.

The pain of drinking chamomile tea does have a masking effect.

They'll only have the "medicinal" tea if even more Lüften didn't do the trick

Germans are weird like that

The rest of us are normal and will take a painkiller

I don't know what's Europe anymore.. Isn't germany in it?

You can read German with little difficulty by combining actual English with phonetic English.

Overdosing on Ibuprofen is harder and less deadly iirc but it can really mess up your stomach and/or damage your kidneys.

It's probably expired.

...but it is amid, not amin, no? Why do americans call it acetaminophen instead of acetamidophen?

The pills will ease the Payne.

You know what sucks as well? Taking too many painkillers against headaches actually causes headaches. Horrible ones at that. Glad to read that you're feeling better, but that's a real trap many people out there are stuck in.

Holy shit, how did you not die from stomach ulcers?

Ibuprofen is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory (NSAID). It will reduce inflammation and the associated pain. If your pain is not caused by inflammation then you should talk to a pharmacist about what the best analgesic is for you.

There are several families of painmeds some more harmless than others. Anecdotally I know people that only seem to get relief from ibuprofen, and others that swear only paracetamol (Tylenol) helps, while again others sweat to asperin. Like the other person said.. talk to a pharmacist about options, and see if others work for you.

Some like paracetamol can me taken over the course of a day for multiple days for example post operation.. and they build a level that causes them to work even stronger. But paracetamol can cause lover damage if taken too much.

Like with all drugs, read the darn pamphlet. Opiates are not your friend and should only be taken very sparingly under proper supervision, if at all.. sure they dull pain but are highly addictive.

Source, not a medical professional, so take what I wrote with a grain of salt and consult a professional.

Tbh I usually take 600 mg instead of the 400mg. That usually gets it going for me

Try taking it with a dose of acetaminophen. Those two have a synergistic effect that is better than either alone and is often used post surgery for that reason.

It helps marginally better than placebo for me. Hence why Americans use it for fairly trivial aches and pains.

I can't imagine it would do anything for pain I'd consider 'serious'.

Depends, I guess. It does nothing for period pains with me, but when I burst my ear drum last month, it took the pain from excruciating to manageable.

I think a lot of Americans are wary of Oxy now. I was in a car crash and the first thing I told the paramedics was, "no narcotics". I deal with enough in my life, I did not need a drug dependency too.

If you're in severe pain oxy doesn't really get you high. At least not more than adrenaline. Just kills the pain and otherwise makes you feel fine.

IV dilaudid was the good stuff. I'm glad it was only during my hospital stay though. They sent me home with tons of oxy. Took it as prescribed a couple weeks before deciding I'd rather be able to have a beer and a functional colon.

I do get why people get addicted to the stuff though. Kills emotional pain right along with the physical.

It's about the perceived drug use (namely ecstasy) within the electronic music scene. Amsterdam, because of its ports and proximity to western Europe, became a hub for typically higher quality drugs.

But also, we have small bottles, too. Kirkland is the Costco brand, the place where you buy shit in bulk.

It's like showing some natural peanut butter from the grocery store vs. a tub of jif from Sam's club.

Isn't 800mg Rx-only? If they're doing it under their doctor's supervision, then that's their business.

I've got a bum leg. Costco Advil is my friend.

Right? I buy my ibuprofen at the Dollar Tree and it still tends to expire before I use it all.

Ibuprofen doesn't help at all with my migraine. Triptanes are the way to go.

What about paracetomol ?

Yes, 100 mg being the standard, 200 mg "strong" ones and 400 mg "we have a good price on these, look how strong they are" said by a visibly excited pharmacy lady. Just behind your eastern border.

If I'm sore I probably take 3 ibuprofen every 4 hours.

Allopurinol for a change?