RFK Jr wants to promote raw milk as HHS secretary

Let's see here, RFK wants to ban vaccines and promote raw milk.
There is currently a bird flu epidemic in dairy cattle from bird droppings getting into the feed.
Consuming raw milk is one of the few ways humans can become infected with bird flu.
I'm sure this will be fine and the virus won't mutate to allow for human to human transfer, it if it does luckily it only has a 56% mortality rate compared to the Covid morality rate of ~4% during its peak.

RFK is secretly a flu virus wearing a human suit.
- [preface and disclaimer: I’m remembering off the top of my head something I read over 30 years ago, details may not be exactly correct]
  
  Not sure whether you remember the chapter of Sideways Stories from Wayside School, by Louis Sachar, in which there was a student who nobody liked, who was a real asshole and wore a stinky raincoat. The kids kept trying to take off his raincoat, but underneath was another, stinkier raincoat, just layers and layers of progressively stinky raincoats, and with every raincoat removed, the kid just became a bigger asshole and his laugh louder and more high-pitched.
  
  At the very end, he turned out to be a dead rat in a pile of stinky raincoats.
  
  That’s what the whole administration is shaping up to be. Except we knew this was coming and allowed it to happen, so I guess that, ultimately, we are the dead rat.
- The plot twist is that the worm in his brain didnt die, its pulling the strings to keep him going and further the global parasite agenda
In the US, right now, the dairy farms where they let the cats drink raw milk saw half their cats die.

This is an actual thing.

Edit based on comments below: The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.

However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.
- You're sort of right ( based on the article I think you read about) The cats drank bird flu contaminated raw milk which led to them dying. For that reason, raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk would~~n't be as dangerous.~~ have reduced the chances of the bird flu, and other illnesses, from people that drink it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/
  
  *Edited
On the plus side the high mortality rate should lower the spread.
- True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.
You might misunderstand. The bird droppings did not accidentally get into the cow feed. Humans put it there intentionally to save money. Just search for "poultry litter" or "broiler litter" and "cattle feed" if you don't believe me. The people who came up with this idea are actually proud of it.

trump's appointments are in the style "Who is the worst person i know for the job that lives inside my colon?"

if Pablo Escobar was still alive, he'd probably have been appointed head of the DEA
- Junior’s gonna get that job.
- He's Colombian, that won't fly for Trump

the guy responsible for the death of 83 Samoans has more health advice …

Oh god he’s gonna kill someone

He's already killed a lot of people.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/how-rfk-jr-falsely-denied-his-connection-to-a-deadly-measles-outbreak-in-samoa/
- He also likely killed some people with his anti COVID vaccine rhetoric back in 2020.
Don't worry, the worms will protect your brain..
- Then why was everyone eating horse dewormer during the pandemic?
Again
That’s the plan.

Try listening to the Behind The Bastards podcast about this guy if you can spare the time.

He is messed up far more than you think.

Links:

Spotify

iHeart

YouTube
- And to be clear, it's just a regular podcast so listen to it with any app you want. "Wherever you get your podcasts" and all of that.
- Thank you.

I think everyone is making way too much out of this. What could possibly go wr-

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/collapse-of-aztec-society-linked-to-catastrophic-salmonella-outbreak/

Oh.

Found an article talking about this that’s not locked behind a paywall
- Weird, I didn't get a paywall with the first one.

Raw milk is dangerous. When I was growing up people would get sick all the time from raw milk it gets contaminated all the time.

We can’t even manage to keep listeria out of our waffles and deli meats snd have e coli onions but sure, raw milk will be no problem.

I'm fairly certain, they just all got together to make a list of all the stupid things they could do to own the libs.

The neat thing about this one, is that It only hurts the people that are going to follow him. The people who didn't vote for that side know better.

You would hope so, but there’s just as many ‘crunchy’ people on the left as there are in the right.
- Yeah, my anarchocommunist cousin had to have explosive diarrhea like half a dozen times before she'd admit it was raw milk causing it.
- Get ready, there's going to be a whole lot of peeling off the warning labels.
  
  I wonder, well they outright outlaw vaccines, or they just be privatized only...
- Mfw the lefty "natural" bullshit peddled by health nuts gets tacit approval from my conservative parents trying to eat "traditionally" aka raw everything.
- Most of those people are now all in for Trump. I'm not even sure I'd call them "left" in the way that people mean anyway, even before they became Trump supporters.
Unfortunately, vaccines aren't all 100% protective. And there are people who get the disease even though they were vaccinated. That means that the idiots who don't get vaccinated can spread the virus to people who wouldn't have gotten sick otherwise. Which of course doesn't mean that vaccination is bad, only that it is not perfectly protective. For example, I have had all the Covid vaccinations up to the day I got Covid. I only knew I had Covid because my wife, who was one booster behind me, got sick with Covid so even though I felt fine, I tested and saw that I also had Covid. But the vaccine kept me from getting sick.

This is the dumbest shit I swear to god. Fuck this timeline already.

Dude is gonna get ppl killed...raw milk....jesus
- Unless he also outlaws pasteurized milk, I'll have 0 sympathy for any adults that die drinking raw milk. This country seems to be in dire need of a toxic cleansing. I'm sad COVID didn't do the job better.
You haven't really tasted milk until you've sucked it right out a cow and finally we'll have a government that makes sure that Americans know that taste too.
- I've had fresh milk from the cow. I also now why pasteurization is required. I'm willing to forego that small pleasure in order that other people don't die horribly.

If I and my friends and family could be certain of getting immunized against the inevitable H5N1 pandemic, this wouldn't bother me so much. But RFK jr. will combat the flu with honey and whole grains and the death toll will make Covid look like a cold. Thinning the herd. Maybe we'll get lucky and RFK jr & Trump and his true believers will get it first.

Hilariously, they'll be culling their own herd, so to speak. You just know the MAGAts will never wear masks again, even to save their own lives.
- Only if there's things like vaccines for the rest of us, which we only got when we did due to the government.

How do you fail to ask yourself why it was pasteurized in the first place?

This is a situation where we let Darwinism take it's course. The people who are stupid enough to listen to this are going to drink it, get sick, and then wonder what happened. Maybe I'm more negative than usual, but fuck em. Let them fuck themselves.
- They're going to kill out kids, not just their kids and themselves. RFK Jr is a plague rat.
- Yeah but before they pass, they're gonna drain money from the failing health care system, which hurts everyone more than we are
- I look forward to the establishment of c/HermanCainAward
- Nah man, this has been a long time coming. I agree: fuck all of them.
- Evolution in action.
Yeah but we're talking about stupid people. In their brains they're probably convinced that milk is not heat treated to kill pathogens but because of government population control or something.

Today's Republican Party didn't get into their position of awesome power by listening to experts....

"I think, the people of this country have had of experts" - Michael Gove, (during UK brexit campaign)

With any luck MAGAts will self-select in removing themselves like they did during COVID.

Trump wants the population to be closer to 100 million. He said that before the start of one of his press conferences to a journalist ... something to the effect that "we could use 2/3 less of all of you."

He is willing to kill off a lot of us to make his life easier. The USA elected a right wing Pol Pot.

You'll work harder with a gun in your back,

For a bowl of rice a day,

Slave for soldiers til you starve,

Then your head is skewered on a stake
- Now you can go where people are one
  
  Now you can go where they get things done
  
  What you need, my son
  
  What you need, my son
And if you kill off brown people, you solve their demographic "issue" (it's not actually an issue, they're just racists). Two birds with one stone.

Raw milk is totally safe....if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren't pathogens floating around the cow.

I mean, my friend next door used to drink off the cows's teats. His Mom would scold him for it, but he did it to show off. We used to milk their three "city cows". Literally the cows would sleep in their garage and then walk to pasture on an every day basis. They would get milked every morning and we would walk to their house and buy a couple of liters from them. Sometimes cheese or bulgaros yogurt.

Everyone loved the cows. They smelled like cows but you could safely pet them and not expect feces on your hands.

The cows we get milk from are all rolling around in feces in confined space and they eat dry moldy feed. Like that stuff is total animal abuse and prone to end up giving someone a cow Bourne disease of some kind.

My neighbors also had pigs and we had pigs. That is why we never ate pig... cows are clean compared to pigs. Pigs will eat bugs smeared in pig feces. That is not normal really because pigs in the wild, although dirty, do not just swim in their feces like captive pigs do. If you ever want to go vegan for whatever reason, visit a captive pig farm. Learn that smell....then go to the butcher shop's trash bin and learn that smell...then realize that when you get your meat in your fridge, the death smell is what you're smelling. Makes me wanna puke 🤮 just thinking about it. And if your neighbors ever killed a pig, you would know it. Pigs don't go down easy. That's one positive thing I can definitely say about pigs. They know you're gonna kill them and they scream like anyone would....as in a person. It churns you inside out hearing that scream and then when it stops you know it happened. Pigs don't go down quietly.

Anyway don't eat animals, but if you're gonna eat milk or dairy, make sure it's pasteurized! Any well understood retarded person like myself could agree 💯👍.

Best copy pasta I’ve seen in a while
- Thanks, I do my best with dairy.
Yeah the state of factory dairy's... You want that shit pasteurized. Feces everywhere. Cows have all kinds of diseases. Filthy environment. It all gets killed or deactivated by pasturing.
- So do you think Trump will improve or worsen animal-welfare protections in agriculture? Which policy will let bad actors make a quick buck at the expense of the rest of us?
Long before there were factory dairies, there was already TB in milk.
Same friend got in trouble for shooting milk from the cow onto incoming city traffic in front of his house. All this as pre-teen kids ofcourse. You wouldn't find a self respecting adult.....yes you probably would.
Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.

Yeah, we'll just make sure that the cows are healthy using the USDA's regulatory capabilities. After Trump fires all of the career experts and replaces them with sycophants. What could go wrong.
- Yup. Plus ebola is definitely not airborne if you walk slowly 6 feet behind everyone else.
Mmmmm bacon....

Newspapers need to just call RFK jr what he is - a child killer. Forget about this raw milk stuff and lay out the direct harm he has caused including deaths of babies from his vaccine misinformation.

They never will. Especially now that we've elected an authoritarian dictator who is hellbent on exacting retribution on anyone who may have slighted him.

And that includes literally just reporting objective reality. They might jail or execute one or two journalists to send a message, but they'll fall in line.
Yeah but y'know, you gotta have one very last last resort abortion method.

/s lol
He's about to have the authority to effectively ban vaccines.

Go ahead. Let your anti science cultists get themselves sick. I don't fucking care anymore.

It feels like we're living in the middle of one of those cultist documentaries, where 29 years from now the stupid fucks that survive are going to be on camera going "I know it sounds weird, but it was really compelling at the time". Except this cult doesn't even have fun drug fueled orgies.

Gatez was involved in drug fueled child prostitution, wasn't he?
Kind want to find a fun drug fueled orgy cult and disappear for about 4 years
I've been involved in a number of cults both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower but you make more money as a leader.
I've seen a documentary about the Jan 6th timeline and one insurrectionist said this in an interview. He couldn't think anymore and everything about it seemed like the best thing since the invention of toast. He allegedly saw his errors in hindsight. I'm more than convinced he is back in the cult. Can't fix stupid.
Except this cult doesn’t even have fun drug fueled orgies.

Drugs may be bad for one's health, but orgies are good. So yes please. I'll be the cult leader with prima noctae right.
He's going to be in a position where he may actually be able to ban pasteurized milk, vaccines, and more.

This is the most dangerous political appointment in US history.

I just hope they have the raw milk distribution set up to go live nationwide at the same time. I want all the people excited for this to get it, and enjoy it for as long as possible before the news gets to them.

Unpasteurised milk drank at cow temperature ‘can’ be fine - depending on the cow, milker and drinker. It’s ludicrous to even suggest it could be safely distributed nationally in the US. He’s an absolute lunatic - and so is anyone who buys it.
- At first I thought this might be fine because the idiots are doing it to themselves. Then I remembered many of the idiots also are parents.
- At the moment farm sales are OK in all states.
  
  Seems like obtaining raw milk in a safe environment isn't a problem.

If it didn't risk spreading disease to everyone else, I would totally be on board with letting science deniers drink more raw milk

By experts, do they mean anyone that paid attention to science and/or history classes in any developed country?

In 2025, how many children will die from raw milk?

That doesn't matter. What matters is that they get their way. We have to just sit on our hands and let them hurt enough people to make MAGAs switch allegiances. Or just let them keep killing people until there aren't enough functional MAGAs left to make any meaningful opposition.

There is no point to argue with them. Just let them do it.
You certainly may drink raw milk if you like, but it may always come with a nasty risk. Plus it doesn’t keep as well, so if it isn’t stored perfectly, you might have a 12 dollar gallon of foul white liquid.

Alex Jones will now be replaced by this idiot fuckwad. Buckle up for the crazy!

Alex Jones could only dream of having this kind of power.
- With how the cabinet appointments have been going, he'll probably get a position soon enough.

It's such a shame that so many of his health propositions have small bits of truth associated with them, yet because he lacks the true in depth look at a given topic he falls short of an overall good view. Listening to him talk about scientific research on Rogan was fucking excruciating.

It's all based on superstition, prejudice and quackery. The man's a con artist.

Raw milk and raw dogging porn stars

Politician life

They are gonna make ignoring the government main stream.

That would be a noble endeavor.

experts say it's dangerous

Then just get rid of them. Simple.

Dumb af is what it is.

The fact that will even entertain this and other anti-scientific consensus bullshit in the conversation is the poison in the well.

I wanna say yay Darwin will save the day but I'm too afraid of intentional sabotage on pasteurized milk.

Luckily it is super easy to not drink milk at all if you are not a baby cow
- Mai brotien!
It's a good day to drink oat milk.
- Lol you know what would be 5d chess to get people to become vegan by Sabotaging all the food production standards to 18th century level.

We should stop posting about Trump and his group of extraordinary morons.

The news cycle thrives on Trump, as every decision he makes manages to anger half the population, while the other half cheers him on simply to annoy liberals and progressives. This dynamic generates more clicks and ad revenue for news outlets, allowing Trump to continue making foolish decisions just to remain in the spotlight.

The only way to change this is to stop giving him space in the news.

Ignoring a problem won't make it go away.
- Repeating the problem wont make it go away either.
  
  Yet here we are after Trump's awful first presidency and after he tried to overthrow the government. It’s all because we are giving him more attention than he deserves.
We are past this though. I remember screaming this into the air at the radio listening to Jack Speer on NPR in 2016. He was going on and on about the awful things Trump was saying and how we shouldn't be hearing this. I screamed then why the fuck do you keep repeating it Jack, why?!? I blame the media 100% for his election in 2016, all that free publicity. 2024 though...I really don't have any answers...
This should have happened after the 2020 election, but the news thrives on clicks and outrage, so they keep giving him attention and fucked us all for the sweet sweet revenue.
Actually...

I think that of democracy will ever return to the US, current news outlets in the US should all go on the cutting block

Fuck the 24 hour news cycle where "journalists" all hunt around like creeps to get that latest story because we gotta broadcast something in those 24 hours... Let's broadcast any and all crime, making people feel unsafe. That'll get us more clicks!

News should be paid by an independent, neutral government organization that will finance actual journalism. The results from said journalism will be available on a number of sites, and maybe a Humber of TV channels at limited hours, like ut used to be in the past. News organizations should not and can not be owned by individuals, it WILL be abused. Laws must be enacted to require news to be truthful and anything even remotely pretending to be news should be limited by those laws. Mistakes can be made and when that happens, retractionsust be broadcasted or made available in websites with the same intensity as the mistake that was broadcasted

The US needs news sources that they can trust in because say what you want about magas, they're right in that the main stream media in the US is utter shit and cannot be trusted. It's just that they are wrong about what sources are bad. They're all bad, but their sources, fox news, oan, etc, are the worst by factors...

It's also stupid expensive.

The avocado toast of the right, except dangerous!

I drank raw milk visiting my in-laws farm. Not my favorite, but their are some risks.

The guy with brain parasites wants us to drink milk that gives us intestinal parasites

God bless the USA
- The prime directive for a parasite...for most all life, really...is to reproduce.
  
  I'm starting to think the worms are in control and this is peak-parasite behavior.
- Can You get brain worms from milk?
- Yep that too, probably why I suffered from the Green Apple Splatter a few times.
There is a difference doing it on the farm where it's only up to some hours old and from the shop where god knows how long it was sitting somewhere without refrigeration.

It's the brain parasite that lives in raw milk saying that.

Baldur's gate 4
- Chk! I will not be ghaik!

What I'm reading is that they want to foster the greatest source of bankruptcies in the US, healthcare costs, while lowering the living standards to turn the US into a "third world shithole country". For added irony, while also having an oligarch who had to migrate away from his home country for contributing to do the same in their birth country and not being able to reap what they sowed, just to end up doing the same in their new country.

At least it isn't a contagion no? Like it's only the ones who drink it raw who are at risk. If so, have at it conservatives, drink all the bleach and raw milk you want

Depends on how the bird flu feels about that...
Like it’s only the ones who drink it raw who are at risk.

TB is contagious. So no.
Nope it's the worst time in history to advise raw milk. Millions of wild life birds and livestock is dying around the world right now because of H5N1. Human cases (allegedly mild) are ramping up already although they don't know/say if they are human to human transmissions. IIRC the CDC found viral material in raw milk and strongly advised to only drink pasteurized mild.

If they allow non-prescription antibiotic use too, and gut Federal law requiring quarantine, that's a great way to get resistant strains of tuberculosis.

And so the dumbfuckery begins. Long as its just recommendations he can continue to be the clown of the court

looks like Lysteria is back on the menu bois also Louis Pasteur rolling in his grave rn

The People's CDC, much like the factory, must grow.

https://peoplescdc.org/

WTF is going on in this thread? Are milkies the new tankies?

It's delicious! Give you diarrhea sometimes though.

So a win/win?
- Yin & yang. The universe Is in balance.

Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but wasn’t there a Portlandia sketch about why raw milk is bad?

This?
- Well, that does mention it but not that one. Two people try to sell the milk.

never hear about this being his fault

see it on the shelf

Cool, I might make cheese. When did they start carrying this!?

Well, as long as only their terminally stupid follow these ideas, well, let them.

I believe you can get brain worms from raw milk.

Wait, so Trump was actually serious about this, and not just baiting him for election support? Like, seriously?

Let's get back to the good old days from the 1700 where we would all die of dysentery!

Can we please make a rule in that stupid US constitution that says that claims from politicians have to be supported by actual peer reviewed scientific evidence before they can utter said claim?

It would make the difference of light and day already

Thanksgiving 2026

You ain't drinking that homo milk are ya?

"Beg your pardon?"

2028 just got easier

You are talking as if the US is ever going to hold elections again.
- Then it will be easier to start a new country. Either way trump's America wont survive this.

I say let him do it. Let him fuck around for a month. Those laws were written in blood for a goddamn reason.

Or we could not have a massive salmonella epidemic in the U.S.
- It seems like your country needs to learn a hard history lesson or two. Give it a try.

I mean, I think people should be able to make an informed choice to drink raw milk if they want. In my state it’s straight up illegal.

Edit: so people can drink alcohol or smoke weed, but raw milk is a bridge too far?

It's illegal to drink it? Or is it illegal to sell it?
- Illegal to sell. Which means you cannot drink it as you cannot obtain it without a cow of your own.

As always with these headlines, it's best to not fall for extremes and rage bait. Not all milk has to be homogenized. And if the supply is near, as in you can buy it from a small farm that has cows grazing, raw is fine.

Europe had this figured out forever. Not sure why you need brain worm guy to lay the smack down on stupid rules in North America.

Last time there was a surge in raw milk consumption tons of ppl got sick.
- Where? From a bad source? Of course.
  
  Again, I was drinking raw milk in European countryside all the time growing up.
  
  Figure out inspections and local distribution, like they have them in vending machines in small towns. And then go from there.
What's the point though? Just heat it up a bit and it's safe. The only argument for why you shouldn't do that is conspiracy nonsense.

By doing this, he is pushing more people to consume plant based milk to help the planet. It’s actually big brain of him.

E: lmao

If by "big" you mean "inflamed".
- The term you're looking for is holy..
~~big~~ worm brain
I highly doubt adults consuming cow’s milk in 2024 have reasoning skills at that level.
- We get it, you're vegan. We can tell by the smugness and the pretentious virtue signaling.
- Great you just turned more people from your cause
- Sorry... you think milk makes people stupid?

And yet the Amish are healthier than just about anyone. I've had the pleasure of having raw milk upon staying overnight with a friend who owned a cow, and it's vastly different than the chalk died piss water they sell in the grocery store. And I survived!

One, Direct from cow raw milk has way less chances of contamination then mass produced raw milk.

Two, the Amish aren't going to go into detail about their health issues with someone who's only spending the night. It's their normal and what god wants, so why would they?
- @Duamerthrax
  Amish people have lower rates of some health conditions than the general population, but they also have some higher rates of others:
  
  Cancer
  Amish have lower cancer rates than the general population, including lower rates of skin cancer. This may be due to their lifestyle, which includes limited tobacco and alcohol use, and genes that may reduce their susceptibility to cancer. However, Amish adults have lower rates of prostate and colorectal cancer screening than non-Amish adults.
  
  Diabetes, hypertension, and hypercholesterolemia
  Amish have lower rates of these conditions than non-Amish Caucasians. This may be due to their higher physical activity levels.
  
  Obesity
  Amish have lower rates of obesity than the general population, with Amish children being about one-third as likely to be obese as non-Amish children.
  
  COVID-19 vaccination
  Amish are under-vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to the general population.
  
  Cardiovascular disease
  Amish have slightly higher rates of blood pressure and heart disease than other populations. This may be due to their diet, which is heavy on pancakes, eggs, sausage, meat, potatoes, gravy, and bread.
  
  Injury
  The top three mechanisms of injury leading to mortality in the Amish are falls, pedestrian struck, and farming accidents.
  
  Amish people also tend to use complementary and alternative medicine (CAM), such as folk medicine, spiritual practice, and alternative health practitioners.
Survivor bias in action. It might be delicious, and you can choose to take the risk, but the science is undeniable.
And yet the Amish are healthier than just about anyone

Source: your ass?
- @ Google it, don't be so fucking lazy.
Unpasteurized milk itself isn't the problem. It's the consequences of trying to milk cows at an industrial scale that are. You simply can't keep it free from contamination the entire time from the cow to the grocery store shelf.

Without pasteurization, the pathogens that make their way into the milk are going to fester. Fresh milk from a cow isn't going to kill you, but drinking that just might.
- When people carried the milk home, they used it the same day.
  
  Sometimes a change in weather could spoil it on the way home.
- @pivot_root Actually it is a problem, 1) it destroys a lot of the nutrient value, and 2) it makes it taste like chalk water instead of milk.
Perfect solution. Everyone who wants milk just needs to have their own cow.
- @NABDad I don't think we're allowed to have cows where I live at all, and horses are only permitted if you have five acres or more.
You should be a scientist!
- @eran_morad I at least no how to find and read studies on nih.gov and research gate which I suspect is more than most here.

Apart from the bird flu being really fucking dangerous raw milk is just a matter of being used to it. If you drink it your whole life it is really not a problem to drink it, as long as a proper hygiene is applied. However, aomeone who isn't used to it might get sick from drinking it.

Raw milk can contain dangerous bacteria like salmonella, E. coli, Listeria, Campylobacter, and others.

Sounds yummy
- I know a guy who got tuberculosis from raw milk.
- Don't forget delicious parasites and their eggs.
- And that's why I said as long as proper hygiene is being practised. This also includes separating the milk from sick cows.
  
  Also, to kind of prove my point: Every single farmer I know, that has cows, drinks the raw milk. Did they die or get sick? No. Does this mean that nobody will get sick? Also no.
Quit saying objectively stupid shit that will get people killed. Jesus Christ.

This isn't an opinion, it's a hazard.

"I think that allowing my child to go play in traffic really isn't that bad". Look if your stupid ass commits suicide by raw milk, fine, but there are people who don't know all the facts who might listen to you, and you might be directly responsible for getting the idea into their heads that, when acted upon, kills them. That's close enough to murder by any sensible ethical standard.

Quit it.
Just seen this is in lemmy.world - home of the big brains who are experts IN EVERYTHING. Makes sense why a factually accurate statement gets downvoted.
If raw milk is as dangerous as some of the keyboard experts on here think then Louis Pasteur would never have been born - humans would’ve died out in Northern Europe long before.
- Actually, people DID die from these pathogens, in droves, before pasteurization. Most of those didn't get a chance to "get used" to it, because they were CHILDREN, who hadn't had a lifetime to get used to it. They'd get sick from this, and either die of some foodborne pathogen, or an opportunistic infection taking advantage of their weakened immune system would kill them off - scarlet fever, mumps, measles, tuberculosis, etc.
  
  It's not just "well if you drink it you die". Thousands would likely die from this - in fact, if you pay attention to the raw milk weirdo cultists on Facebook and other outlets, their kids do get sick and die way more often, usually because those people also don't believe in things like modern medicine. Combine everything ABOVE with a man who has literally stated, multiple times, on microphone, that modern medicine is a sham and he'd love to see the whole modern pharmaceutical industry disappear, and one hopes you can begin to see where the "fear mongering" is coming from, logically.
- Also true. As I said. You can get sick from it if you aren't used to it.

RFK Jr wants to promote raw milk as HHS secretary – experts say it’s dangerous