After all, how far inland could a hurricane go?

Fucking Aquaman??

Haha I literally had Ben written in but opted to remove it. Fuck Ben Shapiro.

I will never not laugh at that. He spends so long chopping with the axe, and then drops the punchline. It's perfect.

That doesn't fix the problem, it just changes who has the problem. Though I'll admit that idiots buying bad stuff from other idiots in a cycle until eventually one idiot gets their life totally ruined feels a little on the nose.

Not exactly. My coworker has been trying to sell his waterfront home for over a year. He keeps having to rehab it after flooding from storms and then right back on the market. No luck. Starting October 13th or something you have to start disclosing floods when selling, also.

I was talking to some friends last weekend, and one of them said that they had previously owned a house on the Outer Banks of North Carolina. I said, "I love the Outer Banks, love visiting it, but I would never buy real estate there." He said, "Yeah, it took a couple years for us to figure that out."

Of course, the islands are basically giant sandbars, and there's the sea level rise issue. But I hadn't considered that the environment is just that much harder on houses - roofs need to be replaced more often, wood rots more quickly, and so on - and that's not even including a hurricane coming through. When the kind kicks up, which happens pretty regularly there, the house is getting sandblasted. The maintenance costs are much higher compared to an inland house, and I assume insurance is much higher, and so on.

They rented it out to vacationers to help offset that cost, but they found that they weren't breaking even - they have to charge competitive rates to get customers, but those rates weren't covering all of the major upcoming expenses.

But, there's still a market for houses there. I imagine the recent images in the news of houses collapsing into the water have to be having an effect, but the bottom doesn't seem to be falling out like you'd think.

Most people seem to have a particular brand of irresponsibility wherein they avoid their own problems by distracting themselves with those of others. It can work out semi-okay even, under some conditions like a spouse caring for someone who also cares for them in return, though ofc it's not ideal in the sense of not taking care of yourself. But very little in life is ever fully "ideal" so... I'm saying that at least this form of mental unhealth isn't as damaging as e.g. doing drugs can be.

And it can be predated upon by the unscrupulous. Which technology allows to happen quicker, and with greater reach (breadth of those affected) and depth (if everyone around you believes in something, then surely it couldn't be "false" now could it?) than was ever possible before, even with organized religion (e.g. Catholics seem to listen more to Faux News than to the literal Pope).

i.e., listening to those "in charge" is actually a good thing, and democracy is also a good thing (if implemented well), but listening to idiots who inflame tensions subverts those good processes, and converts the outcomes to very bad ones. This is why I fear that democracy itself might be about to fail, at least as practiced in the USA - not just bc Trump said that people would only have to vote for him once more and then they'd never need to vote ever again, but bc regardless of whether he wins, there is a huge segment of the population (something like 42%, although due to the Electoral College manages to control the entire outcome) that is pushing for that, and will continue to do so on the next ballot, and the one after that, etc. Plus digs their heels in every time they lose to control outcomes either way - e.g. the government shutdowns holding the budgets hostage.

So I am glad that you are responsible, and quite frankly even the idiots are trying to be, as they vote how they do bc their self-chosen leaders told them to, but we all have blind spots, some far more than others.

You’ve completely missed the point about community, eh? And you know people don’t get to pick where they’re born or where their extended family lives, right? So they get born into these places and get locked down for whatever reason and can’t leave. Certainly they can’t all leave in one perfect unit all at the same time.

Also that’s not how all products are sold, holy shit. Maybe certain drop shippers, sure, but that’s not how it works.

That’s funny and I’m sure you know this but for purposes of discussion -

Think about a couple common examples:

I would pay like a thousand dollars not to wash clothes by hand for a few years.

You see washing machines are like $500-$1000, you buy, you’re happy.

I’d pay five bucks to have a sweet dark tasting liquid in my mouth and not be as tired.

Cha-ching, Starbucks makes a sale.

So even rational consumers often make purchases when their expected utility/satisfaction exceeds the monetary cost.

At its core, this is basically how all products are sold.

Imagine being so neck deep in the scam economy that you don't even remember that products that aren't scams exist.

Ben Shapiro is never going to get rid of hus beach house, is he?

“A” town didn’t flood, there’s wreckage across the entire southeast. It’s not because people in the south are too stupid to know where to build, it’s because climate change is making hurricanes stronger further inland, resulting in century and thousand year floods happening.

On top of what the other person said people still need to live in those places. It is actually crazy to say that the entire south-eastern seaboard of the United States should just be permanently evacuated wholesale. We could slow, or even stop, a lot of this by just admitting that climate change is real and doing something about it and it would be a helluva lot cheaper than turning several states in ghost towns.

Hbomberguy, in response to Ben Shapiro talking about coastal flooding in this vid (yeah yeah youtube sucks, it's where he posts) https://youtu.be/RLqXkYrdmjY?si=4NqX0czakOD5XOxs

No, Shazam. Aquaman is into too many environmental issues to be conservative.

https://youtu.be/DHZFwZ-a8kI

FUCKING TOPH FROM ATLA

He can't get a bank loan, nevermind a mortgage

Yeah, everyone I was talking to about it was very confused why I was worried about a hurricane at my location.

That's kinda the same thing tho. The entire scale gets moved up, because there is more energy available in the atmosphere and water to form and power storms. So when all the storms get more powerful, you get more hurricanes, because in the past those would not have grown big enough to be classified as such. Small local storms can more easily grow to become larger, having a bigger impact. And wind patterns can change as well, so it's very complex and hard to predict. The one thing we know for sure: it's bad news.

Some people get lost in a desert for 40, write a book about why they were lost for so long, and now folks give up Sundays to pray away their feelings.

Least affected states is/will be the Upper Midwest and even there, Republican politicians are making up for it by literally poisoning the drinking water.

Because they're cartoon villains, except dumber than Elmer Fudd.

The GOP has a supermajority in the NC House. NC has a democratic governor, who is term limited, and a right wing lt. governor. Plus the GOP state legislature went ham with gerrymandering and redistricting before this upcoming election. So the republican hold on the state might deepen.

Some nice points but also NC voted for Trump in the last two presidential elections - and this despite having been a swing state prior to that?

So yeah, not as deep a red state as they could be, but they were still fairly influential in e.g. dropping out of the Paris Climate Accord, not merely individually as a state but in causing the entire United States of America to do so.

The best time to have done something was yesterday - or in this case, 8 years ago.

Though the second best time is now.

I felt this. One of my partners cars was hit with a bat because she had a pride sticker on it. Our partner was asked to resign as a math teacher because they're trans and respected students' pronouns. By the end of COVID I was concealed carrying just to go grocery shopping.

I miss Florida wildlife deeply. I was part of Florida trail association thought I was never going to leave but life throws curve balls it's up to you to figure out how to catch them.

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Yep. This couldn't have been more than 5-10 minutes.

Like I said, it was the entire neighborhood. In fact, the entire town.

https://wibqam.com/2024/06/26/photos-and-video-of-the-june-25-storm-and-damage-left-in-its-wake/

The SBA actually offered low-interest disaster loans to both residents and businesses because the damage was so bad.

https://www.sba.gov/article/2024/07/19/sba-offers-disaster-assistance-businesses-residents-indiana-affected-severe-storms-tornadoes

Is a landslide different to a mudslide?

Profanity filters barely begins to scratch the surface of the heavy restrictions on lemmy.ml. The admins there are also well-known for banning people from not just communities but the entire instance if you criticize China, Russia, North Korea, etc., or certain leaders of such, or communist, etc. Imagine a Truth Social instance, except claiming to be leftist instead of right-wing - their way is the correct way and that's final, dissent not allowed.

As it result, it has developed into quite the echo chamber. Not that that matters much to you bc you can access most communities across the entire Fediverse from there, or vice versa.

What may matter to you though is that many people, myself included, have user blocks in place (and lemmy.cafe has even defederated from it entirely) that prevents us from getting notifications from people on that instance. Blocking the big three instances (hexbear.net, Lemmygrad.ml, and lemmy.ml) cuts out >99% of the toxic crap coming our way, at the expense of conversations with innocent people who merely were not aware of the history of that instance and its relation to the Fediverse at large. I also lose out on a few larger communities that way but for me at least I consider it well worth the cost. So if you ever feel isolated, like people from other instances are ignoring what you say... it may be due to this effect, i.e. we may literally not even be aware that you replied to us at all.

So now you know.

Lemmy.ml does. Lemmy.world does not. Come over to the dark side.

wth, we have profanity filters here?

Welcome to Lemmy.ML, where "bitch" and the n-word are equally profane, and the admins render both as removed so you never fully know what's going on. If you want to have a better time, find an instance that isn't run by tankies. I made the mistake of choosing ML as my first Lemmy instance, and I didn't realize how much better Lemmy is when you're not under their thumb until I left.

Find a new instance. lammy.ml is full of damaged personalities who think its their purpose is to control others thoughts. I finally just blocked them. Since what is seen there is invariably seen elsewhere they bring nothing new and definitely nothing positive to any discussion.

The rivers in and around Asheville were rising a foot a minute in some places. Those waters also had cars, trucks, trailers and roofs in them.
Mud/landslides are awful, but so is flooding and it can happen a lot quicker then most people think. I'm very lucky to have escaped in time.

The global South would want to move south for the same effect.

It’s pretty ironic that right wing parties in Europe are actually making what they hate, African migration to Europe, more likely to happen. They don’t want any money going to programs that combat climate change and they don’t want aid going to Africa to help Africans survive and thrive and build their economies.

Could you expand on what are those boundaries and what have we already crossed? Seems interesting.

No. Solve is solve. period. I want a solution.

We could solve global warming right now with intentional cloud seeding, but many are worried geoengineering could be too effective and freeze us. Or, if we solve the heating, it could give fossil fuels the wrong impression that they can keep pumping CO² into the air despite it still killing the oceans with carbonic acid.

Decimight

Saw an article just the other day suggesting the earth captured the moon. IDK what to believe anymore.

I would disagree. I used to live in Rosman, NC, about an hour south of Asheville.

This is absolutely a precedented tragedy. It is run of the mill. That's because of climate change. Because of climate change, these 100 year floods are occurring once a decade. Yes, this is the biggest in those hundred years, but there are communities who are enormously affected by this regularly.

Calling it unprecedented plays into climate deniers hands. It wasn't normal. But it is becoming normal. It is precedented. We caused it. If it's unprecedented, people will ignore it as an oddity, an outlier. But people living there should expect this.

I'm not saying this isn't unprecedented, but flooding (not at this level) has always been a reality of life in Appalachia. I remember going to Kentucky to help out after flooding in 2007 or 2008.

Not every town is gonna flood every year. But there are major floods across Appalachia every year because of the geography. It's always been a high flood rosk area, which was a major reason for the TVA back in the 30's. Electrify the area and control flooding. I'm not arguing against climate change. I'm just saying that "flooding in the mountains" isnt some Noah's arc type shit.

Spicy potatoes, corn on the cob, and cold Miller Lite always available at the replimat.

Excuse me while I laugh in Californian wildfires.

The difference between us is that I am not shocked when floodzones flood, forest fires burn, and landslides slide. The only "unnatural" change in the environment is fucking people. We turn swamps into cities and then cry tragedy when they turn back into swamps. We build cities in deserts and cry that there is not enough water. We overpopulated the planet and then complain that it is killing us. We are the problem. Nature is just doing what nature has always done. The nature of Nature is change.

2000 feet is barely foothills. We build taller buildings than 2000 feet. When I hear "mountains" i expect a visable treeline at the very least. Mt hood, Mt Shasta, the Rockies, the Sierra Nevadas, those are mountains and ranges. You live in the hills.