"The **Most open** Operating System"

Guys, come on. They clearly meant it in terms of security.

"Come on in, hackers, we're always open."

I skipped briefly through the entire video and everything I've heard and seen was absolute bullshit bingo.

Open? Sure, definitely open.... To vulnerabilities

Open windows with no screens to keep the bugs out.

Thanks for this. I needed a good laugh today.

The most open ports

The most open CVEs

The most open complaint threads

Windows 🥇

Open to malicious actors, because of all the bugs.
- because of all the opens.
  
  ftfy
Linux has way more CVEs: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-cve-announce/

(Partially because they don't respect CVEs and assign CVEs to everything)
- I think it's more because companies don't usually run Windows on their servers. Like, internal domain servers, sure, but their actual services run on Linux, in almost every case.
- Measuring number of CVEs is not a great metric anyway.
  
  Linux is open source, so people can find more things wrong with it and fix it.
  
  It just means that Linux users and developers are more diligent in finding and removing vulnerabilities.

Open to everything except the concept of unix.

Sometimes the elites poke fun at us with obviously untrue, absurd statements. It's the equivalent of grabbing someone's fist, pushing it in their face, and saying "stop punching yourself".

Them corporate elites really love tongue-in-cheek backhanded statements such as that.
- I don't get the people executing the idiotic shit demandednbz the elites.
  
  From their perspective you or and boss of one of their companies has more in common with the homeless person on the street than with them.
  
  Stop respecting them.

Open to what exactly..?

OPEN TO WHAT!?

Open to data collection opportunities
Open to advertisers
Infection, zero days, and data collection. TOTALLY open to those.
Everyone but the user.
They're probably talking about their customers opening their wallets
- Nice profile picture!
Open to the outdoors, to let the fresh air in.
- That's how you cool down the modern cpu.
Our collective anuses.
As someone who switched to Mac in 2007… viruses!
- x

Didn't they call it "the most secure" a while ago?

Why are they allowed to openly lie?

In the case of marketing, it's just considered an opinion, mostly because if anything like that is ever put forth to a Judge, there's 900 odd ways to loophole it.

"We meant our assholes, your honor; as open as they come."

"We meant uhm... accepting."
- It could be called puffery. A claim so ridiculous that no reasonable person would consider it a claim
A probably a bit political for this topic, but most companies are allowed to lie about most things. Only a few things that they're not allowed to lie about.
- and for those few things they're not allowed to lie about they pull out every trick in the book to come as close to lying as possible without outright doing it.
- And even when they are not on paper, they are in fact.
Their official marketing is to call Windows 11 "the most secure version of Windows ever" or something along those lines. They definitely use "the most secure" in their marketing, but I think they do it in a way where it is only in reference to previous consumer versions of Windows if you actually parse out what is being said.
Right after that slide the guy is talking about how Microsoft is "committed to remaining the most reliable and secure platform"...

Yeah they're all full of shit
Because there are no consequences for them

In a void, anything can the "The most ____"

Bitch I can't even find basic settings cuz they are so hidden in sub menus

I'm no programmer or UX designer but I can imagine what a mess things are on the dev side

As an admin it gets so much worse. Twice a year your admin portal gets renamed, redesigned, merged with and/or split from another one, or removed, and all those changes are done halfway.
Which means some settings are only on the old version and others only on the new. Then the old one is discontinued even though the new one doesn't have all its functions, yet.
So you completely rely on Powershell. But wait, there's 2 incompatible versions of it now.

I'm currently thinking about a career change, after reading in Microsoft's official documentation that you need to install the new version of Powershell, import the beta version of several commandlets and then run a long script provided by them, only to keep every user on your org from creating their own Teams teams.
And their newest feature is allowing every user to put in their credit card info and buy MS products on the company domain without running it by IT. It's called "self service", enabled by default, and you have to click on a slider to disable it individually for every. single. product. Microsoft. offers.
- Jesus Christ.
  
  I've been doing linux admin and honestly I haven't been looking back. My breaking point was Microsoft pushing a kb that rebooted domain controllers for no reason.
- And their newest feature is allowing every user to put in their credit card info and buy MS products on the company domain without running it by IT. It’s called “self service”, enabled by default, and you have to click on a slider to disable it individually for every. single. product. Microsoft. offers.
  
  LMAO that is a special kind of pathetic
- What the hell‽ Also who would buy Microsoft products for work with their own card‽

unfucking believable... they are saying the quiet part out lout now

the least private operating system

Embrace, extend, and extinguish. They literally documented it as being their strategy. Now the justice department is chasing Google who despite being bad, at least provides enough source code where people have created privacy-focused derivatives of Android. I'd much rather see them go after Microsoft first but the government relies on Microsoft, and Microsoft relies on our tax dollars going to the government so they can get them.
- Kill Google, kill Apple, kill Meta, kill Amazon. I'm not sure whether killing Apple is necessary - despite their problems, they at least have an honest business model (of profiting off a cult). I think yes, split them too.
- I don't really understand how Embrace, Extend, Extinguish is relevant to this, would you mind explaining?

Without walls, you wouldn't need windows.

most open to user privacy violations?

Most open for frustration. Most open for ads. Most open for taking away control from the user.

Trust me, in a few years windows will be a monthly subscription, still filled with ads and no control over your own pc. Windows 10 will turn to a yearly subscription already. 30 dollars per year per pc for security updates. Office is already subscription based. Companies smell money, want to turn everything to a subscription.
- Windows 360¹ will cost 30 bucks a year (adjusted for inflation) and will automatically upgrade you to the latest version of Windows as soon as it comes out. Additional benefits include improved security by blocking non-Store software and having your OS settings managed by Microsoft – Windows 360 will even automatically restore them if they should end up getting changed, e.g. if Recall somehow ends up disabled.
  
  ¹ Not to be confused with Windows 365, which is an entirely different thing.
- I doubt microsoft will force consumers to pay, but that could happen to business.
  
  edit: italics instead of bold.
They are as open as OpenAI

jackie chan wtf meme (but a nonstandard version of it, from a different angle than the canonical one)

When one backdoor closes, three more open.

Yes. It attracts a lot of viruses and other nasties.

What happens when you favor marketing over anything else?

You just lie, lie, lie, so many times that you actually believe your own shit

Most open to making money at the expense of security.

"“What they were telling me was counterintuitive to everything I’d heard at Microsoft about ‘customer first,’” Harris said. “Now they’re telling me it’s not ‘customer first,’ it’s actually ‘business first.’”

DiCola, Harris’ then-supervisor, told ProPublica the race to dominate the market for new and high-growth areas like the cloud drove the decisions of Microsoft’s product teams. “That is always like, ‘Do whatever it frickin’ takes to win because you have to win.’ Because if you don’t win, it’s much harder to win it back in the future. Customers tend to buy that product forever.”

Who in their right mind would ever think that any publicly traded company is consumer first? Their only goals are short term profit followed long term profits. Everything else is in pursuit of those two things.
- Exactly zero fucks are given about long term profit.
  
  If any company cared about long term profit they wouldn't be destroying the ecosystem.
enshitification cycle: First good for customers, then they abuse their customers in favour of their business customers, then they abuse those businesses to claw back everything for themselves.

They are on step 2.

The goatse OS, if you will

Shit, I came here to say the same.

Your computer: a yawning maw

We: watch
I did not need that image in my head right now
- What about later? Around noon, maybe 1 in the afternoon?

I had just hit the button on a recording session last night, and a fucking full page "ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THE EOL OF WINDOWS 10!!" (paraphrased) popped up over my DAW. Yeah, I'm prepared alright Microsoft. I've got a flash drive with Linux ready to install if you keep pulling shit like this. It's going to suck because a lot of audio software developers are garbage with Linux support, but if Windows is just as garbage, there's no reason not to migrate.

Reaper is available for Linux. I can't vouch for it as I've not used it on there, but I've used it on Mac and it's great. Generally well regarded and is pretty inexpensive.
Go DAWless. Buy a Synthstrom Deluge for example. Still need a DAW for recording and mastering though :/ I wish there was Ableton for Linux. "-if you keep pulling shit like this" I can tell you without a doubt they are just going to intensify shit like this instead of stopping. I'm thinking of switching my main pc to Linux and use my old win10 pc disconnected for DAW. No viruses and hackers when there's no internet. No Microsoft ads either.
- If I could make a suggestion, try already swapping to FOSS while ok windows to make the transition to linux easier on yourself. That is what I did, and it did wonders to help me become better acclimated to Linux.
  
  You could also see if you can run DAW on a VM in Linux or see if your software is supported with WINE. That way you could potentially just run the windows application in Linux without a VM. Most of the time, a "Silver" rating is enough, but a "Gold" rating or above is recommended.
They're actually trying to force people onto 11 now? That windows partition that never gets booted sounds really close to becoming more storage for a windows-free life
- Mine went bye-bye a while ago.
  
  I initially installed linux on an additional smaller ssd. I recently set out to swap that setup around, so that windows gets to be on the smaller drive.
  
  Except that after moving Endeavour to the big ssd... I just didn't bother with setting up windows again. Haven't needed it yet.
For audio specifically you might find FreeBSD easier to set up. As a DAW, not as a desktop in general.

ALSA+PulseAudio\Pipewire+JACK are kinda messy compared to newpcm+JACK .

This cannot be real

It pretty much is
- Lol and the context is "What's new in Windows Security". Cannot make this shit up.
Excuse me while I puke

All users activity open for us to scrape! Recall™

The most open operating system!

Microsoft: Fuck your privacy!©

Want to Recall™ that specific porn your neighbour was watching yesterday?

Subscribe to Recall Premium & watch the recording of their screen now!
(Or Recall Premium+ to get fewer ads)
So that's why it says 'get your ass to Mars'...

So when does the false advertisement lawsuit start?

They didn't say to whom it was open.
- For whom would it be the most open operating system?
- Or what, even. Maybe they mean in workplace culture.
Even if there's a law, they sure have genius lawyers for this purpose.

most open to what? mostopentowhat?!

Most open to "enhancing your operating system experience with special offers and promotional materials"!
Viruses? Malware? Hackers?
Mostopentowatch

This just reinforced my will to continue with the linux evangelization.

Hello friend! Have you heard the Minty News?

Open for exploits and surveillance

Windows, now without curtains!

[Citation needed]

Open as in most leaks?

We, at least in the US, are living in a "post factual" world. So this makes perfect sense. Like when my kid was small and everytime he thought he "lost" at something he would declare it Opposite Day. Fuck it, why not? M$ being the most open OS makes no sense, so it makes total sense. War is Peace^tm

Open to exploitation

Corporations can't live without bullshit, the irony of this shit is next level

I mean, there are open things about it. As in - TCP/IP is open. APIs to develop Windows programs are open.

In the same way as Solaris, HP/UX, Digital Unix and something else were open. Except Sun would even send OS sources in addition to documentation to customers interested in optimizing something they'd do, or so I've heard.

But the "most open" thing looks like 2003 "get the facts" style propaganda, except back then they had technical competencies, now it's purely the oligopoly.
- Most open though? No.
- But the “most open” thing looks like 2003 “get the facts” style propaganda, except back then they had technical competencies, now it’s purely the oligopoly.
  
  Haha, perfect.

Well Microsoft spies on every user so sure, it's completely open to Microsoft what they do and who they are.

What is this from?

Edit: https://ignite.microsoft.com/en-US/sessions/GS06?source=/home

Yup actually a thing. Thank you to OP who linked to it in another comment thread

Alt universe where MS went full fossy, the event focused on rolling release called "Open Windows".

Their version of the Recall is called "Skylight" and is an extension of their full local AI "Peephole", for which a lot of companies pay specific licencing fees of the input data it is trained on (depending on their needs & quality of selection).

Their search engine "Periscope" got some heat lately for giving users the option to display sponsored generic links.
- OpenWindows is not that. OpenWindows is the best thing ever with OpenLook. I'd really want OpenLook for 64bit Intel

Wait, this is /c/lemmyshitpost, not /c/linuxsucks.

At least the Aptos default typeset they use is better than Calibri. I hate Calibri but I can't quite articulate why. Maybe because it's the default and I'll hate Aptos eventually too.

Calibri isn’t strong enough in it’s convictions to be Helvetica. It can’t even offer a fight against the hard utilitarianism of Arial. It’s rounded corners and varying thickness show up terribly on anything but the highest resolution screens, where it still isn’t good, and it makes me feel the same way that CRT monitors did when I put my hand up to them. You know the feeling, that crusty, fuzzy, buzzy feeling that you swear you could taste.

A nasty font, it can absolutely go fuck itself.
- This is absolute poetry
  In the hopes of more of this, what are your thoughts about Inter?
Aptos kerning is trash in spreadsheets.